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Teaching Manners To Children Other Than Your Own

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Growing up, manners were no small joke in our household. Lessons learned that I used to find embarrassing I am grateful for today. I was taught to not only say hello to the parent of a friend I was calling on the telephone but announce who I was. Friends who called me on the phone and gave the usual, "Is Reedu there?" were answered by my mom with a "Yes," and a dial tone.

Something else they ingrained in our youthful psyche is to always respect our elders. That not only meant holding open doors, we were also taught to offer up our seat as well. Respect for my elders became more finely tuned years later when I began volunteering with hospice and Alzheimer's patients in New York City.

While I am grateful that my friends' parents found me polite and respectful, and that elderly people have had visions of me settling down with their grandsons, I don't know that I would have taken lightly to such discipline being enforced by anyone other than my folks.

So you could imagine my horror, (not necessarily surprise) when me and my mom were exiting Chipotle today and she snapped at two kids who didn't hold open the door for me and the monstrosity of a baby stroller that I was pushing.

The kids were 12, maybe 13 years old and were walking in through the first set of double doors as we happened to be walking out of the second set of double doors. They changed their young, adolescent minds at the last second and turned out the door they just came through with the glass making a notable thud against the front tire of my baby jogger.

It was not purposeful so I didn't think much of it, especially when I saw a package of "bang snaps" in their hands. But my mom thought a whole lot of it and let them know. She marched up to them and cracked, "You don't close a door on a baby carriage!" Bang. Snap.

Up until that point they stood on the busy Brooklyn sidewalk giggling and frantically trying to open the package of bang snaps as if they were about to pull off the prank of all pranks on a friend who was following close behind. But now they stood there dazed and confused, looking around for a baby stroller. (Mind you I was I was halfway down the block at this point.)

Part of me knows that my mom was merely trying to protect me and stick up for me, which I appreciate, as I would certainly do the same for my children. But at the same time, I took issue with the fact that she felt the need to discipline somebody else's children. I'm not sure I would want a perfect stranger scolding my son should he get caught up in an innocent pubescent moment. And there will be many of them, I am sure.

Maybe it was the zen mood that comes with a satisfying meal at my favorite fast food joint, maybe it was the kids' look on their faces as they facetiously negotiated the bang snaps, or maybe it was the fact that children today are hopeless. In any case, I didn't think it was a big deal. I also didn't think it warranted a lesson from my mom.

My thinking is that kids who purposely close doors on women with baby carriages, or on their elders' for that matter, will have many of life's doors close on them. What's that saying... what goes around comes around?

How do you feel about other people, or even strangers for that matter, teaching manners to your children?

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite and The Huffington Post. You can follow her at @Reedu.

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Jane Byers Goodwin 7 pts

I would greatly appreciate it if the village helped me to teach good manners to my children. If my kids misbehaved in public in any way, and I didn't see it, I always thanked the person who DID see it and said something about it.

When we resent other people's attempts to make the world a nicer place for everyone, we're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

And whether you believe it or not, parents, there are time when YOUR kids, yes, yours, are making the world a bit more difficult for the rest of us. Fix it now, or your kids will grow up to be adults who think THEIR kids can do no wrong, too. Oh, and if you choose not to do anything about it, rest assured that someone else will, and if it's not fixed soon, that someone else might be a judge.

As for the strollers, I don't think some people understand that they're pushing a big heavy battering ram at others. I picture Andre the Giant in "The Princess Bride," parting the crowd like Moses parted the Red Sea.

Not polite. Not polite at all.

reedu 5 pts

Nicole, I couldn't agree more. Moms pushing strollers can be as intimidating as an SUV barreling down side roads at high speeds!

My mom definitely overreacted. Wouldn't be the first time!

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

Nicole_Longstreath 5 pts

I agree with you. So someone inadvertently let a door close on a stroller - it wasn't a personal insult and nobody got hurt. A firm, "hey, watch out" would have done just fine.

They were teenagers - and boys - and we all know teenagers are careless and stupid. A big lecture from a pissed off stranger does nothing to improve an anonymous kid's manners.

People - ADULTS! - with strollers cut me off all the time in public places. Am I to stop them and give them a lecture about manners? Please.

It's very easy to let our egos get the best of us. If nobody got hurt, best to just move on.

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reedu 5 pts

It really does take a village, doesn't it?

I can totally empathize with checking out for a mini vacay. Our son is only 6 1/2 months old and already my husband is checking out on these "mini vacays" - am sure I will be right there with him as our broad grows and gets older!

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

Southerngirl 5 pts

I could go on and on with this. But I will say this it takes a village. One of the biggest problems with ALL of us today is we do not feel the need to be accountable to anyone. Your mom should have done what she did and those kids needed to be corrected. We have to realize that we are not alone every decision we make affects someone else. Please correct my kids as that will help to reinforce what I am teaching. Correct other people's kids because mine have to go to school and church with those rude little people who will grow into rude big people that I just may end up working with.

As for a parent that is standing there I say do it. Because one I am sometimes just DONE with one of my kids and know that one more infraction will have me leaving them with a friend so that we can both continue living at home, and two I may not have even noticed what happened even if I appear to, because I have soo much going on I check out for a mini vaca every once in a while.

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reedu 5 pts

I don't disagree with you that my mom's method was wrong. If anything it seemed a bit antiquated and perhaps like a waste of time. I mean the kids were caught completely off guard. They were so absorbed in their mischievous moment that I don't think they realized they slammed the door on me. In any case, I can't help but disagree that bribery is an effective method of getting what you want. Especially with children.

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

theoutcast 5 pts

Isn't this part of the discipline problem, kids expect to get something in return for everything? I understand the reinforcement aspect of this but I have told kids to settle down when there are babies around and they listened. Most are ashamed to have someone call them out for their bad behavior.

Your mom is great! We can teach kids how to be oblivious assholes or how to stand up for each other. She set a great example how care for others.

And it does take a village. Impolite children become impolite adults. Are we not seeing the results of a society that has failed to recognize that fact for the last 25-30 years?

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reedu 5 pts

In regards to the bus incident, thankfully someone like your husband was there to teach those boys a lesson or two. Some things are truly inexcusable. Shame on them and the people who raised them.

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

reedu 5 pts

The boys pretty much let the door slam on the stroller - it made a noticeable thud. However, I still think it was a hair-brained move and not one of malicious intent.

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

stdiane 5 pts

I applaud your mother's intention but fear that little good was done. It doesn't matter that they were someone else's children or one's own, it's important to demonstrate the importance of good manners. However, expressing disapproval rarely is effective - particularly to a stranger. It would be easiest to give you an example of disciplining someone else kids that worked.
I was in a cinema with my kids watching I think the first Harry Potter film and a group of kids in the row in front were making so much noise that I couldn't hear and that even if I could it was annoying the hell out of me. I leaned forward and tapped one of them on the shoulders (he'd have been around 10) and said, if you and your friends shut up I'll give you the rest of my chocolate. The look of surprise followed by relief was magic and he said, uh ok. I gave him my bag of sweets and heard not a peep out of them.
The lesson is, ask people for help and the majority will say yes. Teach children that manners are rewarding and they will want to learn them. Give them an opportunity for approval and they will mostly choose that in preference to being told off.
Your mother had the right intention but perhaps the wrong method?

reedu 5 pts

You bring up a good point. In that case, do you confront the parent or do you just surmise that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

reedu 5 pts

There's nothing worse than standing there in a panic about something, anxiety levels running high and someone wants to be the purveyor of wisdom. It is times like that that I can snap - and I don't even have older children, yet.

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

reedu 5 pts

It depends what my kid did, but I think if someone were to try and discipline my children in front of me I'd have to adopt your rule!

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

reedu 5 pts

I think you are right. People are so quick to be on the defensive that teaching manners to anothers' kids could be met with backlash from the offending child's parents. Imagine those boys' guardian had been there? They likely would have reeled at the fact that my mom barked at them. Your comment about it taking more than one set of parents to help teach also holds a lot of weight. After all, it takes a village to raise a child, right?

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

reedu 5 pts

the world would certainly be a nicer place if a few acts of graciousness extended to others were more commonplace. I live in quite an anonymous city but every once in a while, even New Yorker's can surprise me by doing something good-natured.

~Reedu blogs at ReeWrite ( http://www.reewrite.com ) and The Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reedu-taha/ ). You can follow her at @Reedu ( http://twitter.com/#%21/Reedu ).

JennaHatfield 23 pts

I don't know. If my kids are somewhere without me and acting like snots, I don't think I'd mind someone telling them to behave. If I'm present? Trust me, I'm going to deal with it as soon as I can, which may not be in front of you at that exact second. That's what I can't stand: Someone correcting my children while I'm standing there in a panic about the situation.

Contributing Editor Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )) blogs at Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ). She is a freelance writer and photographer.

ModaMama 5 pts

I would have been mortified if my own mother had done it on my behalf but in this particular case, I agree that your mother was well within her rights of sharing a bit of common civility. Maybe it is no longer the place of all adults to teach children common codes of ethics and morals (although I really think someone should) there s nothing wrong with letting a child know that he is a member of a larger society and whether or not his mother taught him this... you don't slam doors on babies or elderly.

I once saw two teenage boys throw 2 elderly women off the final bus before a holiday to get the last spots of this busy intercity line. You can bet my husband felt it was needed to teach a few lessons in manners. You don't throw an elderly person from a bus to get a seat. Not rude, wrong.

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CrazedMama 6 pts

I teach my children to have manners and respect and sometimes try to teach other kids manners and respect if need be. If another child is rude to me, I will politely tell them that it wasn't nice for them to say that or do that. I try to do it in a nice way. It really makes me mad when the parent is standing right there watching their kid do the rude deed and just ignores it!

tracismixedbag 5 pts

I don't know how hard the door hit your stroller but I probably would've been pissed too. I wouldn't of marched back over to tell them but I would've probably used my loudest teacher voice to say "Watch it kids there's a baby in this stroller." Sure EVERYONE would've probably looked at me like I was crazy but it would avoid looking like I was teaching them a "lesson".

empathetic 5 pts

I think what your mother did was appropriate. It may not be my job to teach other children all of life's manner lessons however, when a young person does something that is unmannerly to me or my family members, they will most certainly be corrected. Nicely, of course.

I live in a country which is still "old school" - adults will reprimand a young child/person if they see fit. I also live in a place where "Good mornings/afternoons" are said as par for the course.

Nothing makes the world a nicer place than to have just a few acts of graciousness extended to others.

tattytiara 5 pts

It's not my place to teach general manners to anybody's kids, but it's always my place to teach anybody, kid or otherwise, how I expect to be treated. Slam all the doors you want, I don't care - just know that you don't slam them on me.

Sarah@workplayeatdream 5 pts

I am a a big fan of manners, probably because my parents were big on manners. In their version, however, the biggest breach of good manners was pointing out someone else's bad manners. This rule has served me well whenever my seven-year-old has tried to scold her younger sister, and I'd have to point it out to any stranger who attempted to do the same to either of my children.

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imnotasupermom 5 pts

Actually when you and I and I'm sure when your mother was young, another adult teaching another child a lesson in manners was common and expected.
Nowadays it could very well be met with a backlash by the offending child's parent.
Children today definitely are lacking manners and maybe it takes more than one set of parents to help teach, I don't know.
I guess I'll check in with that thought when my son is scolded by another mom about his lack of manners. Though I hope that it never will happen (the lack of manners part, not the scolding) it probably will.
It's a reminder to parents to teach our children their manners so no one else in the future will.
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