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There's no such thing as a free (hot) lunch anymore

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We've all heard of the infamous "deadbeat dad" who doesn't pay his child support; in Albuquerque, New Mexico, they're now cracking down on "deadbeats" who don't pay their children's school lunch balances. Yes, last month the public school system there instituted the "cheese sandwich policy," wherein children with delinquent lunch balances are still fed, but receive a cold cheese sandwich, piece of fruit, and carton of milk rather than a hot lunch. This change came about as the result of rising unpaid lunch charges -- the amount had already hit $140,000 in money owed on lunches halfway through this school year.

Let's be clear about the details of this policy: Children who've already qualified for free lunches continue to receive them. And elementary school-aged children are allowed to go ten meals over their balance -- that's two entire weeks of meals and plenty of reminders home to the parents -- before they'll be denied the "regular" meal in favor of the cheese sandwich "courtesy" meal.

I have to admit right up front that I find nearly all school lunch offerings to be equally unappealing. Also, my children are apt to voluntarily opt for a cheese sandwich and a piece of fruit for lunch, so part of me doesn't really understand why this is a big deal. I would be incensed if kids were being denied food. But they're being fed, regardless of whether or not their parents have paid.

But. But. There's allegations that the cheese sandwich kids are being pulled out of the lunch line -- singled out -- and are embarrassed because of it. (And I'm also kind of wondering what happens if you fail to pay your lunch bill and your child has a dairy allergy, though that's a less pressing issue, I suppose.)

Lisa of On To The Next Thing says she doesn't understand why this is a big deal; the cheese sandwich lunch doesn't sound appealing to her, but it certainly sounds suitably nutritious. However:

I don't agree with a kid getting pulled out of line - that's unnecessarily humiliating. Parents should explain to their kids what is going on and that they will be eating cheese sandwiches for awhile, if that is the case.

This assumes, of course, that the so-called "deadbeats" aren't paying their school lunch balances because they're unable to, rather than due to oversight or poor planning. Either way, though, it's certainly not the fault of the kids.

AcadeMama says it's a lose-lose situation:

Without a doubt, this nightmare of an economy has forced many parents who were already on the edge to simply pick the safest place to jump. But, in this case, it's children who feel the shame for an economy gone down the tubes, and it breaks my heart.

While the New Mexico school system uses the "At least we feed them" excuse to justify their decision to offer cold cheese sandwiches to children with delinquent lunch accounts, it strikes me as a weak solution to the problem. The fact is that while parents are ultimately responsible for paying for meals, it's the children who have to face each other in the lunchroom.

Michelle at I don't know what's wrong with people, or is it just me! is downright angry:

When I was in elementary school I got free lunch and when I got older I brought my own. I could not imagine being jerked out of line and having all the other kids see me get my cheese sandwich. This pisses me off! If we can send $900 million to help Gaza why cant we provide a meal to a poor student who's parents have lost their jobs.

Jessica Gardner of Little Merry Sunshine sheds some light on the process:

I also understand that schools can't simply be in the business of giving everyone free lunches all the time without reimbursement from somewhere. Sure there is the National School Lunch Program, but to get your child qualified for free or reduced lunches is incredibly difficult. In my own school district, a family of 4 cannot have an income of more than $755 per week. That's for a family of 4. That's not much money, especially in the Chicago area. Even if you do meet the income requirement, there is an application process. And you may not get an instant answer.

The news coverage I've read has not addressed whether there's any consideration given to whether or not a family has applied for free or subsidized lunches in this scenario. Should that matter?

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TheFeministBreeder 5 pts

I cannot imagine sending my sons to school with no food.  It's just cruel.  I went without lunch (and many other meals) growing up because my legal guardians were not only dirt poor, but also completely irresponsible.  Now that I'm a parent, I couldn't imagine putting my kids through what I went through, and I can't imagine why any loving parent would.  My children never go hungry.  Granted, I have a bit more money than my guardians did, but I also budget, and there was a time in our recent history where we had to live on $150 food budget per MONTH for a family of 4.  I made it work, because feeding my kids is a TOP priority.  I'd sure as hell notice if they went 2 weeks without any lunch.

These parents need to suck it up and figure out a way to make sure their kids are fed.  If that means meeting with the school to figure something out, or cutting out any unnecessary luxuries, then that is their responsibility.  This is not about poverty - this is about parents ignoring their responsibility to make sure, somehow, some way, their kids are fed.  It's no one else's responsibility - not even the school's.  Good for the school for giving the kids a sandwich though.  That is certainly a lot more than I got growing up.

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

This seems to be speaking to the broader questions about Adult personal responsibility for their children.

Now for K-6th grade yes, the parents need to be responsible for providing lunches, either they buy them or prepare them at home. Shouldn't even have to be said.

A responsibility or capable parent doesn't need to be told this. We may be in a time when many more parents cannot provide lunches to their children. Plus you do have a few parents to bring down the curve.

Hungry children do not learn effectively. We know that. So if the school gives the a cheese or PBJ that is fine with me. But there comes a time when that generosity has to be paid for or compensated. How can a community consistently do that?
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Michelle McKinley 5 pts

Yep, when I was a kid I always brought my lunch.  My  mom still makes the best pb&j sandwiches in the universe.

A child's school lunch should not even be an issue- come on mom and dad, fix the kid some lunch.  Even if you're on food stamps, you can get bread and something to put between the slices.  I know from experience. 

It isn't the school's responsibility- if you don't want your kid embarassed, fix some lunch.

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coloradogirl 5 pts

I don't really understand why people are getting so upset about it. When I was in school I had the free lunches for awhile, and to get them, I was required to work in the cafeteria for a certain amount of time each week. Everyone knew why you worked in the cafeteria and nobody ever bothered me about that. A few years later, I started taking my lunch, and if I forgot it, I didn't eat until I got home, there was nothing to fall back on. The child's friends aren't going to be mean about it and most other students aren't going to care. There are always a few others that will be mean, but if they aren't picking on the fact you are eating the cheese sandwich, they will find something else. We should all be glad the sandwiches are being given out at all.

loraleechoate 5 pts

I apologize for the HORRIBLE grammar and spelling. I should not type when I am on Nyquil. :)

loraleechoate 5 pts

I was PTA president of a Charter School for almost 4 years.  It IS a public school but in exchange for more freedoms and autonomy we took less funding- ie. no lunch programs.

After 2 years of packing lunches I took it upon myself to start a hot lunch program. 

 I had no idea what the hell I was getting myself into.

Here is the thing-School lunch programs are NEVER profitable. They are never fully funded by the monies paid for the lunch by students.  They are big money drains for every school and district. It was a hugely daunting task and it took a lot of hit and miss work to finally find a caterer that could bring in lunch and work with us.

It would be great to rely on the community to help schools out to feed the kids but do you know how hard it was to find 2 people commited to help with lunch at my school? And that is from a pool of parents BEGGING me to find a way to get hot lunch to their children.  

No WAY could we participate in the free/reduced lunch program. The paperwork alone on that for our small school would have taken a full time person.

I just do not think people realize the sheer money and man power required to run a program like this and I really hate to see the school take such a beating. I am really impressed with what they ARE providing to those kids because they are not required to provide anything but clearly want to.

For kids that didn't have money at my school we had a PBJ and Milk program. They were allowed up to 10 lunches a semester before being banned from the program. The money for it came from the PTA budget and it was woefully difficult to collect. It was staggering how many kids used it. 

As for pulling them out of line? I have sympathy and hope that they are discreet, but honestly, I don't really know how to totally sheild a kid from something like that in a way that is practical. We don't know the situation or layout of the school involved. We had to do the same thing. If the kid came to the counter and didn't have money on the books, they had to go around to get a sandwich.  No one was mean about it, but logisically there were no other options that would work. I guess if you worked a lunch shift recently it would make more sense...it takes more man power than there is just to get lunch done and the cafeteria under control.

So this district is doing way more than my school was able to do. We did our best but the PTA President and principal had to suspend the program the year after my term was over because SO many people were taking advantage and it was depleating the PTA budget. Just our ONE LITTLE SCHOOL.

Like Kelly said, I just don't think that schools can do EVERYTHING and this one is doing quite a bit IMO.

Silphium 5 pts

My problem with this isn't so much that kids are singled out or that they are given a cheese sandwich. I just can't help but do the math in my head, after being in the food service industry, and also having been party to more than a few cafeteria meals, and come to the conclusion that offering a cheese sandwich lunch doesn't seem to save any money. In that case, then, it seems that the purpose is to shame. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if a cheese sandwich at times costs more than the hot lunch offering. If most kids eat the hot lunch, then that price is lower due to volume. If fewer kids eat the cheese sandwich, that means the price relative to the hot lunch is higher, whether or not the actual cost is higher. A serving of spaghetti and meatballs, when given to most kids, versus a handful of cheese sandwiches every day, seems like it would indeed be less expensive. So I can't help but think it's possible this is more to shame kids/families than it is to ensure every child is fed.

mamalang 5 pts

Our elementary school only allows the kids to go over their account by one meal.  They send the note home when they have a dollar (which is one meal.) The PTA has a fund held in the office that kids are allowed to use but you are only allowed to have one use at a time...which means, effectively, the kids get two "free" lunches before they get a pbj, small piece of fruit and milk.  I don't believe the kids are singled out, and I've found that kids that fall into the pbj category often get "donations" of food from other kids lunch.  (Here, I'm not going to eat this. You can have it if you want.)  Luckily, our school has a serious zero tolerance policy for teasing, and since it's a military school, most kids are very accepting of things that are different.  I don't agree with singling kids out, but if all they are getting is the sandwich, fruit and milk, everyone's going to know anyway. 

 And like someone earlier said, the parents are responsible for contacting the school if lunch money really is a problem.

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

I want the child fed. If the parents can't or won't do it then we as a community have to step in. In everything there are choices.

That school had a choice. They could have just as easily not provided a cold lunch to any student who could not pay.

They could have slap a lien on the delinquent parents for using services promised and not paid for.

They could have asked their local community - hey, we need help her pony up some cash.

I know good teachers are paying way more out of pocket than they should. Thanks to all of them who do and still get crapped on by the society at large.

It isn't fair but finding the answers seems to be harder than getting the parents to pay.

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cakeburnette 5 pts

that has a similar system for delinquent accounts.  Which is also very similar to the system at my kids' previous elementary school which was in another state, in another part of the country.  I am also a sponsor for one of the school clubs and have been dealing with money issues that affect the kids.  And yes, people can be WEIRD, when it comes to financial problems.  But, bottom line--YOU are responsible for your child's well-being, so YOU OWE IT TO YOUR CHILD to talk to the school's administrators or lunchroom staff or whomever before you get to the point where your child becomes a target for ridicule.  Two weeks is a long time to be delinquent without talking to someone at the school.  I grew up in a poor, single-parent home, and there were times my mother preferred not to take "charity" but because she didn't want us to suffer, she did.  And I grew up wanting to give back to other families like ours.  I try to give anonymously so that no child has to go without and no parent has to feel shamed or obligated.  Yet, I still encounter parents who are willing to put their child in a position to be singled out and embarrassed, just to save themselves embarrassment. Which is just sad, IMHO.

Kelly Wickham 5 pts

I've been writing about education a lot more lately on my own blog because the crunch is really stinging me right now. The thing I continue to say to people sounds crass, but it's true: education isn't responsible for EVERYTHING. While I would NEVER presume to call a kid out and embarrass them, why do we have to take a hit for feeding children? Will taxes increase because we need more money for the hot lunches we could feed our students? Every week I take extra money in my pocket for my students that I see aren't eating and I feed way more than I care to count. Not because it would make me sound like a braggart, but because I would have to admit just how many kids are going without.

Jacques Barzun said, "Apparently Education is to do everything that the rest of the world leaves undone..."

Damnit if he's not right.

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Kelly Wickham 5 pts

I'd love to see community step in and become involved. I'm all FOR that. You're right about the school stepping in but let me just tell you from experience: it's hard to get people to commit to helping out schools on a sustained basis. People like one shot/drive-by volunteerism.

I want to see sustainable community programs that partner with schools to become the place where students feel safe and nurtured. However, we had a summer program where kids from a low income area could come in for both breakfast and lunch in a school setting and it was poorly attended. The kids just didn't want to show up for that. How do we remedy that one?

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Clamo88 5 pts

The school system in my county does the same thing.  I'm not sure if it's a cheese sandwich, or not.  I do know that my son often chooses the lunch that is for kids who haven't paid, because he likes it.  It comes with carrots and sunflower seeds, or sometimes yogurt.

This may sound heartless, but I don't see what the big deal is about pulling them out.  Giving it to them in line with the other kids would be the best method, but even then everyone knows what the cheese sandwich lunch is for.

Kids are resilient and there is no way to keep them from having moments of embarrassment.  If it's not the lunch issue, it will be the clothes they are wearing.

The kids are not being embarrassed by the school, but by the parent.  It's the same with children who are late to school every day.  It's not the school's fault that they have to be signed in at the office and head to class with a tardy slip so that every one knows they are late again. 

Some parents might not be feeding their kids because of the economy, and some parents might simply be bad parents who are too concerned with their own lives to care about what Junior does or doesn't have for lunch that day, or whether or not he'll be embarrassed about it.

And yes, unfortunately, there are parents like that in the world. 

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MrsWsKitchen 5 pts

I've seen what happens to the kids who don't pay their bill--the lunch line ladies (at least where I worked at the time) would vocally ask the child about payment, which was terribly embarassing.

Let's face it.  Kids can be mean.  Giving fodder to the bullies doesn't help things.  The cheese sandwich thing IS punishment in a way--kids hear the
news at home, then watch at school.  Suddenly the kid who goes thru the
hot lunch line & comes out with a cheese sandwich (sounds like a
more nutritious lunch to me, too, by the way, compared to other hot
lunch options--ick) is labelled and subject to bullying.

I may be overly sensitive in this area--after all, I was one of those little kids at school.  My mother was diagnosed with a mental illness when I was in elementary school.  I was late for school every day because mom couldn't get it together; sometimes I didn't have lunch.  On those days, I chose going hungry rather than embarassment.

This isn't to say that this is not a real problem--but singling kids out is not the answer.  I'd love to see area churches donating funds to cover these problemmatic areas for the schools, or PTAs raising funds to cover this.  The kids can't help the decisions their parents make.

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AmberS 5 pts

I have no first-hand experience with this sort of thing.  When I was in school there were no lunches provided, and for that matter there was no cafeteria, so we all brought our food from home.  And my own children are not yet school age.  So my opinion isn't very well informed.

All the same, I think everyone clearly knows what the cheese sandwich means.  It's not cruel, no one is being denied their basic needs, but there could definitely be some sort of stigma attached.  If the schools can't afford to provide these students with hot lunches, then perhaps the program needs to be re-examined.  Like you suggest, the gap between those who need the assistance and who qualify should be examined.  Perhaps there are ways to raise money or re-structure the system.  It seems really unfortunate for very young kids to bear the brunt of a problem so completely outside of their control.

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

But they do. I do commend the school for feeding the children because in my day you paid or you did not eat. They did have reduced rates for some kids but if you didn't have the money there was no credit.

That doesn't help the kid being ragged on by their peers for eating cheese sandwiches. It will introduce them to concepts of lack, class exclusion and vulnerability. Not really the topics I want a third grader to embrace.

A small part of this might be a deadbeat mom or dad. More than likely it is a stretched to the limit mom or dad that hasn't got it to give.

I don't want dog pile on them. Their hearts are heavy enough with worry. I knew kids that ate their school lunches because that was the only food they were going to get for the rest of the day.

It might be time for the school to let the public know about the problem and have some kind of donation event that would clear the books. Or a heavy duty audit as to why there isn't enough money to feed x amount of children for a year.

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Gena Haskett 6 pts

I think you are right, the parents could prepare lunches for their children so that they are not faced with embarrassment.

It would have been more responsible to call the school and find out if there were other options for payment or if necessary suspend the participation so that they didn't run up a tab.

In reality people get "weird" when it comes to money issues, big and small. This is head in the sand behavior. "If I don't pick up the phone the collectors can't reach me." "I'll send my child to school because they will take care of him/her."

This is the kind of money fear or perhaps money irresponsibility that has to be unlearned. There are consequences for actions. We need to help people make better choices in good times and in bad.

In the meantime I have no problem with my tax dollars feeding a child. I don't care whose child or why. I'm hopping that village thing will kick in someday.

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Mir Kamin 6 pts

I totally agree that the kids shouldn't be punished for the actions of the parents. Though I guess I'm still not quite understanding if the stigma here comes from being different, being singled out, or if a cheese sandwich is really so bad. Like I said, my kids love cheese sandwiches! :)

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Mir Kamin 6 pts

I think that's a great point, Gena, about the district possibly trying to do some fundraising. One of the blogs I quoted made a similar point, asking if this was the only idea they had for making up the shortfall. But if this is becoming such a hot issue in their area, I wonder why they haven't had some sort of drive -- seems like local businesses would be happy for the good publicity, you know?

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unmotivated yet 5 pts

How difficult it is to pack the same cold cheese sandwich, fruit and a carton of milk? Is that less expensive than paying the school? This will at least keep the debt the same instead of increasing.Children are very sensitive; we know what affected us most when we were their age...