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Tina Fey: Fallen Feminist Icon or Just What We Need?

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The funny lady has been taking some serious flack lately, but maybe her controversial commentary is exactly what feminism needs.


As soon as Tina Fey took the first bite out of her “Brownie Husband” during a recent “Saturday Night Live,” I knew there would be a lot of talk. Both the kind that celebrated the fauxmercial’s ingenious hilarity -— and, I mean seriously, obvious satire -— and the riled-up ridicule from those who seem to have been waiting to pounce on Fey ever since she decided to own her hotness and pose for magazines in low-cut dresses and take the lead in a romantic comedy -— things that I think are just as feminist as not giving a shit about high heels or lipgloss. (Psst, the feminism is in the control of one’s own image. Yes, she’s in control of it). But pretty feminists have been criticized for embracing their prettiness for generations. (Gloria Steinem comes to mind.)

Ever since that now-infamous “SNL” appearance, there’s much more of the latter going on. The basic argument against Fey is: Why does Tina Fey make fun of women so much? Whether it’s her disheveled, unlucky-in-love -— but totally successful, strong, and otherwise badass—character Liz Lemon on “30 Rock” or the pole-dancing, repressed homemaker in her latest film, “Date Night,” some women just can’t let Fey off the hook for portraying flawed -— and, yes, unattractive -— characters or turning her icy wit against other women.

But is she now? Well, yes and no.

Here’s why she’s not “making fun” of women in her TV show or movie roles: “30 Rock”’s Liz Lemon is certainly flawed -— and that’s why she’s awesome. Fey -— writer and creator of this fictional, comedic show —- is deliberate in the desperation of her character. It’s a critique on the way society portrays single, successful, non-married non-moms. It’s the image shoved down our throats through mainstream women’s magazines and just about every successful TV sitcom in the history of time. Women’s magazines -— hell, all media -— have one very clear message: Happiness is a box of chocolates given to you by a guy who loves you and —- finger’s crossed! —- is going to pop the question and make all your fairy-tale dreams come true. But most of the women in those successful TV sitcoms were married moms, you say? Exactly. Even the few truly successful single-ladies sitcoms find a way of either marrying off those ladies or making their pursuit of a man their primary obsession. (There are -— thank goodness -— a few recent exceptions to this rule).

Now, Tina Fey has been known to bash women a bit. She and Amy Poehler would often use Barbie dolls -— misogyny’s own mascot -— to portray the pitfalls of women when they co-hosted “Weekend Update.” Because, guess what? Women are flawed. The whole point of sitcoms and sketch-comedy shows is to mock people. And if women can’t be in that mix, I’m not sure that means we’re winning the battle against sexism. So why, then, are Fey’s once-devout followers so up in arms about her rant against Jesse James mistress Bombshell McGee?  Yes, she called her a whore. But I still don’t get why this is anti-feminist.

Woman-bashing of any kind is, of course, decidedly against the cause that seeks to bring equality and respect to all members of our gender. But the truth is, not all women are fighting the good fight. In fact, they’re fighting against it.

Quite frankly, sometimes some women deserve to be called out on their shit. Those who actively seek out married men -— ideally those with fame and money -— for sensational affairs seems like a good place to start. Fey’s criticism of Bombshell McGee -— and celebrity mistresses in general -— doesn’t let the cheating men off the hook, as some feminist bloggers are claiming. But, really, there has been no shortage of Jesse James bashing. It’s almost too easy to point the finger at the man who strays. Yes, the finger should be pointed at him (one particular finger comes to mind), but he is only one half of the offense. McGee, in fact, started this entire public spectacle by blabbing the affair to the media to begin with. Why do we allow the philandering women who make cheaters out of their married playthings out to be victims rather

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SocalMom 5 pts

In another lifetime, I worked on the staff of the Tonight Show (during the Carson years). Ten comedy writers, all men - and when asked why no women on the writing staff, all agreed that "women aren't funny." It's a sentiment that persists 25 years later in comedy. Watch the comedy nominees each year when the Emmys rolls around - how many women do you see? Not a helluva lot. And despite that "not funny" nonsense, Tina Fey was not only a writer/performer on SNL but HEAD writer.

One more thing: When Jerry Seinfeld or Jim Carrey or any of several dozen male comics makes himself the butt of jokes by pretending to be dumb/nebbishy/flawed, you don't see anyone criticizing them. I'll know we've succeeded as feminists when we stop having these kind of silly arguments.

Six Strong Hands 5 pts

 SocalMom My daughters started parroting all kinds of anti-feminist crap as they grew into teens. Like, women aren't funny, and women bashing jokes. They've never heard that at home, I have to assume they picked it up from friends and school. When I start naming funny women, Tina Fey is always the first one listed, and of course, even though there's a huge list of funny women, my daughters still disagree. The fact that they are echoing anti-feminist statements is pretty upsetting, but the fact that they say they would rather die than be a feminist is what makes my stomach hurt.

    I get that part of it is natural rebellion against the mother figure in a quest to find their own identity. But I have to say, people like Tina Fey are hugely important to younger women and girls who are trying to figure out what they believe and are willing to stand for, because she seems like one of us, even if it's one of our very best; she is likable and smart and funny and yes, likes to wear pretty clothes. 

If we say "this is what a feminist is, this is what one isn't" we are playing into the same tired patriarchal crap that says "this is what a woman is, this is what a woman isn't." Of course Tina Fey is a feminist. She just called a ho a ho. I don't care about the aforementioned ho's tats or chest, that's harmless stuff, but I think what the person attached to them was in fact ho-ish. 

     I think we are confusing the word feminist with the word saint. 

Southern Grace Gourmet 5 pts

she's hot now and people as jealous. People stereotype feminists as loner unkept or butch type women, when that is clearly not the case. Feminism is just about making your own choices. Choosing your own path and not being a follower. So inevitable, anyone, even that whore bombshell mcgee could be a feminist. And on that note, no one has pointed out anything about this new baby that was adopted. Any blue collar, redneck type guy is probably not going to be happy with that situation. Does anyone think Sandra went a little too deep in her character? It seems like shes a follower for sure, trying to be the woman she's portraying. The finger should be pointed three ways not just two. Not saying it wasn't a wonderful thing they did, but she should have took her husband's obviously racist beliefs into account.

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SirensMag.com 5 pts

"She is a feminist, and she is sexy (and that's OK)." TallPaul, this may be a different argument, but I couldn't agree with you more. And thank you for being an out-and-proud feminist male!

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southmainmuse 12 pts

Tina Fey is real.

She communicates more through humor about women and the culture than a 50 page thesis on feminism from some university prof.

People either get her message or they don't. But they react. And they think.

She's strong, opinionated and probably doesn't do much that isn't carefully thought through. Her humor seems juvenile at times, but it is terribly complex in what it reveals about us as women.

Strongly neurotic. What woman isn't?

victorias_view 3522 pts moderator

I agree - feminism is political. But it is also leads to question of what is the definition of feminism? As women we make choices everyday - to stay at home or go to work? Pro-Choice or Pro Life? We also deal with issues of work place harrassment, attempting to break the glass ceiling, the media, and the list goes on...Betty Friedan once said, "The feminist movement provided women with choices."

So, if we are not open to dialouge, debate, and disregard another women for her opinion or a "choice"different from ours. Does that not change the rules? And alienate a diverse population of women from the feminist movement?

Atena 5 pts

...quick-witted, smart, and marches to the sound of her own drum.

...for women to not need a man to feel that she has any self-worth.

These are great ways for women to be, but I don't think these descriptions come close to defining feminism. Feminism has a lot of definitions, and there is much dispute about them, but if I know nothing else, I know this:

Feminism is political. It's about more than women feeling good about themselves, and it's about more than how women feel in relation to men. It's not an absolute identity, but rather actions and choices. Some choices are feminist. Some are not. One person, such as Tina Fey, can do things that are or are not feminist.

I think Tina Fey has a lot of feminist thought put into the Liz Lemon character. Same for 30 Rock in general. Does that mean everything else she ever says or does will be "feminist?" No. I'm pretty sure that would be impossible.

I like Fey's work, but I have to admit it's problematic at times.

PS - I find it ironic, and kind of funny that the only self-proclaimed feminist that has commented so far spent half his post assuring us that feminists can be sexy, but that sluts are not sexy.

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TallPaul 5 pts

First off, yes, I am a man. But I have been a feminist since 10th grade.

Many feminists cast-off the notion that you can be a feminist and be sexy. In fact, many feminists will take on qualities of males to prove how feminist they are (personal grooming, hair style, and dress). Why do they feel that they have to be more like a man to be a feminist? Why is sexy bad? Both men and women can be sexy. Both can be fair and understand equality. Being attractive and sexy doesn't make a man any less of a man. Why do some feminists feel that being sexy makes a woman less of a woman?

If I were a good looking, sexy man, I would not consider that fact "lowering" myself. If I chose to be a man-slut, that's different. That is demeaning. But that has more to do with actions and attitude than looks. You cannot tell me that sluts (male or female) are sexy.

I always thought the idea behind feminism is for women to not need a man to feel that she has any self-worth. To be her own person, and be in control of her life.

To that end, Tina Fey is brilliant, daring, and strong. She writes, produces, and acts. She is in control of her choices - good or bad. She is a feminist, and she is sexy (and that's OK).

Maybe her comedy is not for everyone (who's is?), and maybe not all her jokes hit the mark (who's do?). Too many people take Liz Lemon, and hold her up as an example of how wrong it is to portray a woman that way. These people are taking the character out of context. If you watch 30Rock, ALL of the characters are dysfunctional (Pete, Frank, Jena, Jack...). They show the faults and strengths of society. Liz Lemon is probably the strongest, most self-aware character on the show. Sometimes things work out, and sometimes they don't. That's life, and we all have a little bit of Liz Lemon in us (as well as Pete, Frank, Jena, Jack...).

victorias_view 3522 pts moderator

I believe Tina Fey is a feminist icon because she is quick-witted, smart, and marches to the sound of her own drum. In today's world were so many young women are influenced by the Snookie's and Paris Hilton's it's refreshing to see Tina Fey as a leading lady with actual opinions.

Feminists in the past such as Gloria Steinem have made significant in roads to help women break the glass ceiling. It's when we turn on our backs on women such as Tina Fey that is when we do more harm than good to the feminist cause.

We as women are all different, multi-faceted, and have different opinions. But that is what makes us women great! We live in a media cookie cutter world enough as it is and women like Tina Fey make my Thursday nights a little brighter. Bring on the snark wit and opinions!

pattib77 5 pts

Personally, I don't think Tina Fey is all that funny. It's just her comic style I don't like, since I don't know her personally at all. For me, "feminist" is a loaded word. It conjures up images of someone who thinks their point of view is somehow better than a man's. I know this is not the case at all.

If as you say, a feminist celebrates women and calls attention to mistakes of a sexist society, then maybe she is. I agree there is a lot to call attention to. I guess I am much less a feminist than a people-ist.

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jojo5176 5 pts

She hit the nail on the head in regards to Bombshell McGee- and this coming from someone who doesn't care for Fey all that much.

If it walks like a duck... talks like a duck...

McGee had an affair with James for the money/career. She had sex for money... Is that not what a prostitute is??

Just sayin...