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Online Piracy: Trusting the Good of the Community

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I draw pictures in a notebook. The old-fashioned way. With paper and pencil, then I ink with a pen.

But that’s the end of the old-fashioned process.

Once I finish a drawing, I’ve gotten the idea out of my system. So then I like to send the drawings on their way. So I start the next phase -- scanning my drawings, cleaning them up, coloring them. Then I add words and post them on the internet.

I hand-drew a graphic novella several months ago. As I dipped my toe into the comic book / graphic novel world to figure out my next steps, I began talking to other comic book artists. One piece of advice was consistent: "You have to have a web presence -- that’s how people can find you."

So I scanned some drawings and set up a blog, plugged my nose, and cannonballed in.

Now, about four months later, I create drawing blog posts a couple times a month.

The graphic novella is still sitting as a paper copy.


My posterity as a web-published artist is scant. I don’t have dozens and dozens of posts. But now that I’ve begun posting on the web, I can’t see going back.

Community - What were my drawings are now out in the world. I can never predict which illustrated stories are going to hit a nerve, trigger a response. I hear from strangers, and see different sides of friends I already know. I have drawings in my notebook that no one’s ever seen. And without an audience, without community, they too are like friends I know in a very specific context. Who knows what new angles I'd see in them if they entered the online world?

Let the Number Crunching Begin - As soon as I post my drawings, I can immediately monitor traffic -- how many hits, where they're coming from. And then there’s the bonus of seeing the Facebook and Twitter numbers increment -- sometimes I know who’s sharing and tweeting but most often, I don’t.


Does it concern me that others may be linking to my drawings in other ways that I can't control? Once I kick the drawings out of the nest, I don't know where they'll end up. I personally find that gratifying, especially if they are out seeing the world, and not just staying close to home. Could this be my fresh-faced newbie stage, still flattered by the attention?

Amy Martin creates delightful comics -- as books and online. When asked about posting her art online and her thoughts about being linked without attribution: "My work has never been pirated, as far as I know. I do worry about people stealing images and such, but I have to weigh that against the necessity of sharing my work with a web audience. It's much faster to grow a reader base via the internet than by continually schlepping/mailing print books all over -- and cheaper, I might add."

You can watch TV on Hulu for free. You can read the New York Times online for free. We access more resources and services online, for free. We feel entitled -- what we can access is ours. I also believe that the online world and related business models are still evolving -- micropayments maybecome feasible. Let's face it, the online community is a real community. It'd be nice to earn some bank there, too.

Dan Bethel is one of the comic artists I've met in the last six months, co-creator and illustrator for the great webcomic Eben07. He and his co-creator Eben Burgoon publish a new webcomic weekly, for free. And they've been pirated. I like Dan's perspective: "For internet-based artists, I've come to believe that the property which is more valuable is your name more than the product you create. A webcomic –– whether the creator realizes it or not –– is more of a business card or, more accurately, a portfolio with which the artist can build an audience. Any move a creator makes on the internet is an expression and a reflection on that developing brand.

Do people link to my drawings without my knowledge? It's possible. Right now, I'm still evolving my voice and finding my audience. The more exposure I get, the better. When I do publish that graphic novella or write the next one, I'll hopefully have some open arms in

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memomuse 5 pts

I am glad I found this article.  It both tempers my frustration and fuels it.  I have had a lot and I mean ALOT of my cowboy and rodeo photos stolen.  I have been having to contact Photo Bucket, Google, individual websites, to get them taken down.  I even have a photo a professional bull rider is using as his personal facebook profile photo.  Is it credited to me? No.  He most likely googled himself and found it.  It is artistic and a different perspective than most of the action shots.  But as an artist, it tears me up.  Especially since I have found this photo and others on so many websites, with people taking the credit.  This is my thing!  Rodeo photography from an artistic perspective.  Anyway, I recently found a lot of my photos on this website:http://www.lana-nova.com.au/gallery/Wild%2BWest/wild-west-art/71070?view=jumbo&order=date_added  

 

I need to write a BlogHer piece about this whole piracy thing.  I feel helpless.  And it frustrates me because she (www.lana-nova.com.au) clearly used my photos and the photos of other Western Art photographers as FREE advertising for her "Wild West" party.  I am not sure what this Wild West party is, but I certainly wouldn't give her permission to use my photos for this website.  

 

I really need to call in for some help from my BlogHer community.  

I wrote a post about this on BlogHer, just talking about photo piracy a little bit.  

http://www.blogher.com/monday-museletter  (The part about photo piracy is under sub heading -- "April Fool.")  Please give me any help or advice you can offer.  Two of my cowboy photos have been Pinned on Pinterest correctly with my name and website, but I had to take that website down as that is where everyone pirated the photos.)

 

I also found my some of my best photos on this website: http://david-cutefaces.blogspot.com/search/label/Cowboy -- I am not only seeing red now, my nostrils are flaring!  I contacted this guy and he took them down after I emailed him, then guess what -- he just put them back up!!!!!!!!!  Thank you for letting me vent!  I can be reached by email at memomuse@gmail.com 

evantyne 7 pts

Hi Jayne
I heard a similar story to yours: in which one blogger would consistently copy posts from another blogger. I find it mystifying that someone would go to the effort to create a blog and then just copy posts from someone else. Just doesn't seem like a very rewarding process for the copier.

I am heartened by the comments here in which people try to give credit.

Eileen

Ferocious Introvert ( http://ferociousintrovert.blogspot.com/ ) is an illustrated blog / drawing diary coming out of Oakland, CA

evantyne 7 pts

Hi Amy
Thanks for your note. I've considered the same thing - at least signing my images when I break them apart within my blog. But decided against it because it would be making my 'stamp' as important as the image - and like you mention, it's a bit distracting.

A friend mentioned that she's seen people link to art where they couldn't find the author, mentioned that and then ask viewers to add the author if they know it. It's nice to know that people are trying to attribute to the proper creator.

Eileen

Ferocious Introvert ( http://ferociousintrovert.blogspot.com/ ) is an illustrated blog / drawing diary coming out of Oakland, CA

HopeDespiteDepression 6 pts

When I first started my blog I used a site called "morgueFile.com" - it's a site where bloggers can use images for free.

Then I started taking my own pictures and from that creating my own artwork. I make sure I credit photos that aren't mine and then leave the ones that are mine without credit... I have a side note on my blog stating this - and to basically just ask for permission if anyone wants to use my images. After all - I worked hard on them.

I don't care if someone wants to use them (don't know who would :) but common courtesy is to give credit where credit is due...

I too would be interested if there was a way of finding out if one of my images was being used (because it's definitely a compliment!)

I'm glad you posted this - great timing as I was just having this conversation with a friend! Glad you brought it up!

Take care,
Christine

auntjayne 6 pts

Take care of you,

Aunt Jayne

For the most part I do trust other bloggers.
Some newer bloggers don't understand about giving credit, but if they are honest folk, they learn eventually.
I have had my content stolen on a regular basis by one slimey individual and it's funny because one of the posts that he passed off as his own was "Aunt Jayne's Gluten Free BBQ Sauce"!
This is a great article and hopefully it will educate the newer bloggers and remind the seasoned ones that we must respect other bloggers and give credit where credit is due.
Thanks for writing this,
Jayne

Lorne Wellington 5 pts

I am a new to blogging and using the internet/web beyond a Google search but in general I try to always give credit where credit is due. Since I learned how to ping and track back I find it easier to notify. In the copy of my posts I mention the source. For me it adds to the quality of the post. With all of that said just trust others feel same.

Lorne S. Wellington

CEO of Sculpted Silhouette ( http://www.sculptedsilhouette.com )

journeymum 6 pts

I struggled with worrying about people stealing my photos and for awhile I watermarked them, then as I participated in a blog feedback swap someone told me that they really found the watermark distracting and that it made it difficult to see the picture. I decided it was more important that my readers understand what I am showing them than I retain some kind of branding on everything.
I search for images for my blog posts on flickr under creative commons, or share pictures I take. In a few instances where I've referenced another blog or etsy I might include an image without asking permission, but I'm doing it with the intent of sending viewers their way.
Love your blog btw, I think it's incredibly unique that you use your own illustrations along with writing.

Amy @ Journey Mum

Randa 5 pts

But I ALWAYS link back to where I got the photo and try to make sure it's the original source but sometimes, I don't know if it is or not. I never thought about asking - if it's on the web and free, I assume it's okay since I'm not making any profit off my blog. And I think most websites get a hit when they've been linked up so I figured they "knew" anyways. However, after reading this, I may start to ask.

Sincerely,

Randa from About Life* ( http://aboutlifestar.blogspot.com/ )

evantyne 7 pts

Heather
Thanks for the kind words. I went through an interesting process writing this post, as I haven't really wanted to examine the 'dark side' of posting original content online.

Reading the comments here gives me more food for thought too; the rumination on this topic continues....

Eileen :: http://ferociousintrovert.blogspot.com/

Lael Hazan 5 pts

You've made a compelling argument in a major discussion of intellectual property. Our family produces cookbooks. Legally, a reviewer is able to use four recipes; however, many more of our recipes are around the net with no back links or credit. We greatly appreciate people notifying us of use. We feel as you do, once our work is out there we hope it will live on.
When I worked for Saveur.com I worked to make sure everyone was credited and we only used a small portion of the work and back linked. However, many people don't have easy contact info on their blogs. That would also help.
Thanks for a strong post.

Lael Hazan

www.giulianohazan.com ( http://www.blogher.com/educatedpalate.net/blog )

@educatedpalate ( http://twitter.com/ ) on twitter

evantyne 7 pts

Gwen,
I watched your video -- it's so great to hear someone articulate an idea that I had a germ of, but hadn't really incubated it fully.
When I do my blog posts I really do feel like it's a conversation. And while it's rewarding for me to draw and I would do it anyway, I have a fuller experience when others respond, or if someone is affected enough to link. Now that being said, if I'm not privy to the conversation (and don't know I'm being linked to) less fun. But it's preferable than safely keeping them to myself.

Thanks for chatting.
Eileen :: http://ferociousintrovert.blogspot.com/

idoradesign 5 pts

I'm stuck on the definition of pirating. Can something be pirated if it's offered for free? Will it matter to me if someone in Siberia decides to knock off one of my products? I don't know.

Sharing something you've created is already a vulnerable endeavor- sharing it with an untold number of strangers who might do something new to/with it adds yet another creepy layer to the process.

It sounds like it could become an optimist/pessimist issue- I'm glad you believe in the goodness of the community you're sharing with!

theoutcast 8 pts

I have to admit that I have pulled from other sites. I want to credit others and do when I can find the source. Unfortunately, it looks like things get passed around (and copied) so much that it is hard to find the original source. I don't make money on my site but if I did I would use a stock company.

Jenna, how have you found out about your copied work?

Heather blogs about Motherhood & Other Offensive Situations at http://www.ultimateoutcasts.com.

Gwenn 5 pts

I love meeting other artists who believe in free culture! In the end, no one can copy YOU ( http://www.gwennseemel.com/index.php/blog/comments/imitate_imitez/ ). Art = idea + technique + person. And the “person” part of this equation makes real art inimitable.

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Gwenn Seemel is a French-American artist who blogs ( http://www.gwennseemel.com/index.php/blog/ ) bilingually about all the faces she makes while painting faces.

JennaHatfield 200 pts

Yes and no.

I get righteously peeved when people take my photography without link, without asking, without credit. It makes me see red. I already have a name for myself, and so sometimes people alert me when it happens (words or photos). I just wish people had common sense to not take what isn't theirs or to simply ASK to BORROW (and credit) when it's due.

Contributing Editor Jenna Hatfield (@FireMom ( http://twitter.com/FireMom )) blogs at Stop, Drop and Blog ( http://stopdropandblog.com ) and The Chronicles of Munchkin Land ( http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com ). She is a freelance writer and newspaper photographer.

theoutcast 8 pts

I just hopped onto your site and I can see why you would be concerned. Your content is well-written, original and interesting!

You have a good point, though. Hopefully the extra internet exposure leads to some money in the future.

Heather blogs about Motherhood & Other Offensive Situations at http://www.ultimateoutcasts.com.