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An Ugly Truth: Talking to My Daughter About Suicide

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There is very little that I keep from Emily.

Oh, that is not to say that I allow her access to what I consider to be adult worries or information. My own mother with her non-existent boundaries taught me that my child was not my friend and confidant. I had that role. I hated that role. I will not be repeating that particular role with my child.

I do my best with discussing the issues around her body changing and the changes she notices and feels. I won't pretend that it is easy or comfortable. There is a part of me that wants to run into my closest and close my eyes and LA-LA-LA-LA it until she has moved out. However, that role has currently been taken by Terrance, so one of us has to buck up and get out there and provide some guidance. Tonight, I read her an article by the fabulous Dr. Lissa from the BlogHer feed about what vaginas should smell like ... and while she was vaguely horrified at my use of the terms Fish Taco, coochie, and pussy (and perhaps the ease in which her mother allows such terms to roll of her tongue) she was also curious and attentive. Par for the course in our house.

Nearly three weeks ago, however, I broke a barrier with her that I have held back until now.

Suicide.

My sister has made two suicide attempts. The first one, the tester one, was minor as these things go. Em knew that I went to my home town and that her aunt was sick ... but nothing more. She knew that her grandmother and I had progressed to a fairly spectacular argument that sealed my decision to keep my mother at arms length. However, since we still encourage Emily to call and chat with her grandmother as well as occasionally spend some vacation time with her (all done without me being involved in transport or drop off/pick up) she doesn't think to dig any deeper.

I have not kept my own mental health issues from Emily. She is aware, for instance, that I am currently changing medications. That this may mean that I am slightly crabbier (or not) as I feel out the changes in regimen. She understands that I manage depression. That I take medication for depression. She has known what the pills are and look like and that they are not candy and not for her.

I have always wanted her to know that yes, depression is real and it can be managed, and that it is just a part of life for some people. I wanted her to know that my depressions has nothing to do with HER, are in no way her fault and should not be held inside her as some kind of criticism of the wonderful person I know her to be. She also knows, from my comments, that depression is something that my "runs" in my family.

I have always been frank with her because I want her to be aware of a predisposition within 50% of her genetic makeup towards major mental health issues. Mental health issues that I know, from the copious research available, start to emerge in the age 14 range for many teens.

We were at a breakfast place with the television on in the background. I wasn't listening terribly closely, as I was waiting for my cup of coffee. She must have heard something on the television, however, which prompted the question.

"What's suicide?"

Unlike the inherent weird freaked out feeling that your child asking about sex gives you - like OH MY GOD THEY KNOW THAT THEIR FATHER AND I HAVE DONE "IT!", this question sends a wholly different feeling through you.

Fear runs through you. Deep, deep fear. The same fear you felt when you were five and realized that your parents could die. That your force of will could not stop something from happening ... that your existence in the world could not wholly protect people whom you loved.

Looking into your child's face; the person who makes you both crazy and utterly joyful and reaching for words to explain the urge to extinguish your own life? The desire to simply brush the question away with a deflection or a "You don't have to worry about that" is profound. As is the desire to

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Dawn 5 pts

It does seem random at times, I think, especially for young people.

Of course, we also know that this is why their rates of death, by both suicide and accidents is way higher than any other population.

They feel both invincible...and occasionally hopeless.

From a researchers point of view, I know that this is because their brains are not yet full developed. The pre-frontal cortex ( which controls decision making) just doesn't fully finish growing until about 22.

What that leaves us adults with is the knowledge that teens have the ability and energy and means to end their lives - but not the ability to fully think out the consequences of their actions.

My hope for my own daughter is that her knowledge that people she knows struggle with depression, and have struggled with the desire to end their lives gives her the ability to voice some of those teen concerns without fearing us judging her as strange or defective or embarrassing to the family/community.

I've often wondered, as an adult, about my own high school peers who ended their lives and "seemed" normal. What were their stories?

An excellent book is The Burn Journals by Brent Runyon. It is the autobiography of the author who set himself on fire in the bathtub of his home, and his subsequent recovery. Its a brutal read, but incredibly honest and true to what happens in the minds of many teens.

Dawn Rouse

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Jozet at Halushki 5 pts

a topic to broach than even talking about sex.

In the past two months, there have been two young people in our community who have committed suicide. One was a 13 year old girl - good student, played in the orchestra.

Five years ago, an 18 yo honor student killed herself.

Three years ago, a high school football player - a very popular kid in the school.

After the most recent suicide, the worry among most teens was, "They seemed so normal. Will I lose control one day, out of the blue, and just kill myself?" and "There are going to be copycat killings."

Suicide seems to frighten kids more than sex, drugs, and death itself. People can almost understand accidents, go through the grieving process. With suicide, the anger and fear and helplessness are just overwhelming and can bring grieving to a standstill.

As difficult as it may be, it's a topic we need to bring up again and again. To say one or two times, "I'm here for you even when you feel like this horrible moment will last forever" isn't enough. We need to say this over and over and live it through our actions and relationships with our teens and young adults.
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prettyxperfect 5 pts

Thanks for sharing. I forget how relatively easy it is to deal with four year old questions like "Why does it get dark out?" and worry for the future when I'll have to have this talk with my own daughter. The sentiment will be the same, though. I'll go through anything with her.

Dawn 5 pts

It is my hope that Emily does not grow up feeling the shame and need to cover up "family secrets" in the same way I certainly did. I deeply hope that my willingness ( even as I want to run and hide) to discuss these issues gives her a different path to walk.

Dawn Rouse

Writer, Thinker, Nap-Taker and almost Doctor of Education

I am Doing the Best I can ( http://www.balefulregards.com )

True Wife Confessions ( http://www.truewifeconfession.com )

KatieGoode 5 pts

What a wonderful way of dealing with an extremely difficult (but important to discuss) topic. Thanks for sharing!

Dawn 5 pts

Dawn Rouse

Writer, Thinker, Nap-Taker and almost Doctor of Education

I am Doing the Best I can ( http://www.balefulregards.com )

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sheryltips 5 pts

Thanks for this beautiful and honest post.

Dawn 5 pts

My own mother never told us three siblings about her family history - not in detail, at least. We knew that our uncles were "different" and that most of the women were "dramatic".

What may have been more helpful was to know that one uncle is a paranoid schizophrenic, and the other manic-depressive.

As far as the women of my family? Depression mostly - but certainly never called that, never discussed outside the family.

I laugh at myself that I can read my daughter the "How a Vagina should smell" article with No hesitation, yet when it comes to discussing This topic with her, I get tangled up. My adult worries creep in that I will somehow "infect" her by revealing this about her family.

Of course, that isn't true - as my logical, many years of therapy having voice shouts out. But still.

Dawn Rouse

Writer, Thinker, Nap-Taker and almost Doctor of Early Childhood Education

I am Doing the Best I can ( http://www.balefulregards.com )

True Wife Confessions ( http://www.truewifeconfession.com )

theoutcast 5 pts

My father committed suicide when I was 11. It was a shock and so eye opening to see how his decision created devastation in those who loved him.

I decided right then that I would never purposefully inflict that pain on my family.
Fortunately, I have not experienced depression that would have changed my mind. He was off of his lithium at the time. He too, needed his medication.

I think you did the right thing to tell her what it is all about.

By the way, I have to compliment on your ability to get the words, "coochie and pussy" into your suicide post. Not an easy thing to do...:)

Heather blogs about Motherhood & Other Offensive Situations at http://www.ultimateoutcasts.com.