Veepstakes watch: Obama has chosen Joe Biden as VP
by Lisa Stone

UPDATED AT 9:15 AM on Aug. 23: It's official - BarackObama.com announces "Barack has chosen Joe Biden to be his running mate. Joe Biden brings extensive foreign policy experience, an impressive record of collaborating across party lines, and a direct approach to getting the job done. We have our team, but we also have our work cut out for us. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the leaders who will bring the change our country needs. But they can't do it alone. Show your support for the Obama-Biden ticket by making a donation today."

Reactions from the BlogHer community thus far are mixed: Some pro, some con, with blogger on both sides wondering how the mainstream media broke the story ahead of the Obama '08 email and text that went out this morning.

Jill Miller Zimon is pro: Biden! Yes! Did the happy dance at 8:01 am

Elisa Camahort Page is con: I'll stick with ugh

The Anonymous source is both, saying that the Netroots can't handle Biden's truth but he's articulate.

Maria Niles is tactical and analytical, both below and on her personal blog: "The official announcement is still wet behind the ears and already the sniping, criticizing and whining has begun. This is the real problem with Democrats. Not the choice of Biden but our seeming inability to keep our eyes on the prize..."

What do you think? Add your links!

More in the comments below.

UPDATED at 10:19 PM on Aug. 22: The New York Times is reporting that Sen. Joseph R. Biden (D-Del.) is Barack Obama's choice for running mate. No confirmation has yet appeared at barackobama.com. If this is true, what do you think of the choice?

Original post:

Are you one of the Americans sitting on the edge of their seats to learn who presumptive presidential nominees Barack Obama and John McCain will select as running mates?

I am.

Earlier this week, Mary Katharine Ham blogged that Obama's likely to pick first, given that McCain has another week to get organized before his political convention and the rumblings around Obama's speech tomorrow, Saturday Aug. 23 in Springfield, Ill. where he launch his bid for the presidency.

So tell me: Who do you think Obama should pick? Morra Aarons-Mele recommended decorated military vet Jim Webb as the "perfect" VP for an Obama ticket.

How about you? And are you one of the people who signed up for a Twitter or SMS text notification when Obama does announce?

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I drunken emailed Obama last night

 I realized I'm pretty attached to the idea of being represented by a woman - so whoever he picks I'm hoping it's not another dick.

 So I drunken emailed him last night. http://www.blogfabulous.com/barack-obama-chooses-vp-today/

He sent this reponse: 

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting us to share your thoughts on choosing a Vice President. Senator Obama is deeply honored to be the Democratic nominee, and we have noted your input on this important decision.

Thank you again for contacting us.
Sincerely,
Obama for America

 So, I'm waiting for my text message.

Empowering Girls: So Sioux Me

Blog Fabulous

 

Tracee you look very Vice-Presidential...

next to that cardboard cutout of the Senator! Thanks for the comment. Now I have to stop laughing...

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder
Surfette

 

lmao

After hearing who he picked, I might fire off a drunken email as well. First I have to do something I've not done in years (get drunk.) One beer simply will not provide the proper insight needed for such a potentially politically astute and cogent email... which of course is inversely proportional to the amount of alcohol (it could be margaritas) consumed. :)

Guess I'll just have to say something whilst sober, which is a great pity, because it will hardly be inspired, just damn annoyed.

Biden - wtf?

How is that for a reasoned opinion?

Yeah, I was hoping Obama had the insight and the understanding of why he should select a woman. Hillary had some caché, but there was that whole Bill thing, along with the fact Hillary might have said something that hurt Barack's feelings. Can't have that, can (h)(w)e?

I was hoping for inspiration. For excitement. To be able to scream 'yahoooooo!' and move on towards the election. What we got is someone who can inflate a regulation hot air balloon simply by talking into it for an hour or so.

Do either of these guys give a shit about the issues that concern women? Once again, more than half the country goes unrepresented (unless McCain is the one who makes an inspired choice.)

It is a good thing liberals are generally for gun control - we keep shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

 

 

nelle

&

llhaesa

 

gee thanks

You knew I'd be drinking coffee when you wrote that. You wrote it just to see how big a mess I could spew all over my tablet when I read it. I You did that on purpose.

And it's awesome.

Gun control. Shooting ourselves in the foot. Hah. Awesome. You must have slept well last night.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

Rumblings...

speculating on Romney being McCain's choice.

If so, then McCain is matching Obama's inanity, and well... we are back to status quo ante.  

Romney is ten times worse than Biden. I've watched this guy from not too far a distance, given this is part of the greater Boston area in terms of media coverage and saturation. I cannot think of someone I'd least like to see near the presidency.

My gosh, I'm living on the Bizarro world.  

 

nelle

&

llhaesa

 

If it is Romney

I'll have to stay home or write in your name.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

Except you know...

that would be the worst choice of all. 

Don't vote for me! Has anyone ever campaigned against themselves? Wait... Obama just did.

 

nelle

&

llhaesa

 

Just cause a pol is a woman

Do either of these guys give a shit about the issues that concern women? Once again, more than half the country goes unrepresented (unless McCain is the one who makes an inspired choice.)

Just because an elected official is a woman does not mean that she cares about issues that effect women. Look at Libby Dole for goodness sake! I'd far rather have someone like Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden than Kay Bailey Hutchinson representing me! Those guys may not be women, but they've stuck their necks out pretty far to advocate for issues that are important to me as a woman, whereas some female elected officials have voted against them. It'll be great to have more women in office, but I don't think blanket support to any woman is going to guarantee that certain issues are addressed. (Think about Ann Coulter, Phyllis Schlafly, and their colleagues.)

Suzanne Reisman, Contributing Editor - Feminism & Gender
Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS) & Oth

 

The choices we are talking on..

are not Schlafly or Coulter; rather viable, strong candidates who do represent views we support, and who would have brought great enthusiasm and likely votes to the campaign.

Instead we get someone part of the same old machine, a 'machine' by the way that has lost 7 of the last 10 presidential elections.

Obama ran on a theme of change. I'm not seeing a whole lot of change with this choice. What I am seeing is the same old, with people telling me to accept it because 'they support choice and women's rights.'

Not good enough, not when 216 years of history tell me one woman has been nominated for the presidency or vice presidency; when one was thrown in jail on some made up pretext when she ran for the presidency; where Congress with 18% or so of the membership women, is at its highest level ever - flip that number... 82% men is the lowest ever... and 2 women have sat on the Supreme Court over the 216 years.

And so are justifying the selection with 'be happy, they support your rights' appropriate? Not to me.

I could not bring myself to vote for McCain; if he picks Romney, Obama will get my vote. If he is bold of choice that trumps Obama's choice, I'll write in someone.

 

nelle

&

llhaesa

 

I understand your frustration

I hear you on the 216 years of nothingness, but at the same time, I personally can't get excited about Hillary Clinton. I guess that's what it comes down to. I almost voted for her in the primary, but ultimately could not get over a few of her policy stances. As a result, it doesn't bother me at all that she was not picked. I also don't think the other possibilities of female candidates were very strong in general. I like a lot of the female governors, but I am not sure that they were ready to be on the national stage. (I was unimpressed with Sebelius's post-debate commentary and deer-in-the-headlights look. But give her time, and I'm there.)

Take a look at the candidates that EMILY's List is backing, and there's good chances for more (progressive) women in Congress, governors' offices, and local government. I don't think that all is lost by just the VP pick by any means.

Yeah, it sucks to be asked - yet again - to wait. But given how bad things are on the policy front in terms of issues that I care about, I'll take any viable reversal of course that comes my way. My hope is that HRC's campaign was so groundbreaking that we can expect some really exciting future races with even stronger women contenders.

Suzanne Reisman, Contributing Editor - Feminism & Gender
Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS) & Oth

 

Nelle, when you type I hear my mother's voice

...invoking her irritation at Joe Biden during the Hill-Thomas hearings. Not his finest moment. What of his and Obama's policies re: women concern you the most? Seriously want to know and discuss this week during the DNC...

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder
Surfette

 

It isn't so much...

policy as the candidate himself.

I'm a liberal/progressive, whatever such labels imply. Well left of centre. Biden is pretty much occupying the same space politically.

My concerns are... he is a long term player in the Democratic status quo, someone who has never been able to get people outside of Delaware to vote for him for national office.

He has been in the Senate for a long long time, and as such was there and culpable when Congress flipped with the Contract With America (leaving out the substitution of 'On' despite huge temptation.) He is yet another power insider who have failed to demonstrably change the direction of this nation, despite ample opportunity to get it done.

Obama is supposed to be about change. I like him in some ways... that is I really liked the early Obama, pre-contention with Hillary. Both did not cover themselves with glory through the time from January through early June, but he emerged the victor - and now apparently decides to play it safe with a move toward the past and the old machine.

Maybe I've been around too long, my first vote was cast in the state elections of 1974. I've watched liberals run to excess and piss people off such that the country shifted right into the hands of what we have now.

I was looking for different, for new ideas. New ideas where old ideas would receive consideration only to the extent they were vetted and deemed worthy. I was looking for someone who just didn't mouth the words 'support women's rights,' but who lived and breathed and experienced and sometimes went to bed pondering things like equal rights for women, or why someone did not get a job she desired because some less qualified guy was selected.

IMO, Biden will not appeal to undecideds; he might win a debate on technical grounds - points - against the Republican nominee, but will people identify with him? Will the greater body of Hillary supporters identify with him?

Sebelius would have been a very good choice; at once bold, with a potential to really bring forth and seal the gains made via the Clinton campaign - a permanent shift in our base politics.

Obama whiffed on this opportunity. The policies might be there, but politics is more than policy... it is people, a decidedly human element, with considerations on that level. And in this case, Obama, who had shown so much promise by what he was bringing to politics, has lost that vision in favour of the safety and comfort of Joe Biden. I'd guess Obama has looked up to Joe along the way, and that is good... but that is his personal motivation and feeling, in a situation where he needs millions of others to see and feel what he sees and feels.

In an election where women were energised and excited and really thinking we could get this done, we get this... a redirect backward to 1984 or 1988 - a time where I watched my boss be forced to attend a corporate meeting held at a men's club where the company president had membership. She had to use the back door, they would not let her in through the front.

I'm 53, headed for 54... and the time where I get to see a woman hold the presidency or even the vice presidency - for the first time - is running out. 

 

nelle

&

llhaesa

 

This is very disturbing

Has anyone seen this circulating....I am personally sick:  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

 

Erin is bugging me in twitter so.... I'll
comment

I wish Obama would choose Palin but he won't - too bold a move for him (or anyone.) I would seriously consider him if he chose Sebelius - still a bold choice and an interesting team.

If it's Biden, ugh. Just ugh.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

Professor Kim shared a link...

Obama/Biden - I agree with this completely.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

I can imagine feeling that way

 But...our population is still heavy with people who were in their 40s or so then, and are in their 60s now and they VOTE, often, and in big larger proportion to their demographic than many other subgroups.  As many others are saying, this is about being pragmatic.

This is the U.S. after all.  I just got my fuddy duddy town to drop it's one political yard sign per yard per election law dropped - they'd been holding out because they said it's not aesthetically in line with the town's desires.  Talk about ugh.  I got a letter from our Mayor yesterday lamabsting groups like Ohio Citizen Action for having the NERVE, nerve I say, for canvassing door to door in our town to tell people about environmental issues.

So - you know - change is change and a country with more than 100 million voters is... a country with 100 million voters.

That's no excuse - just reality.

And to repeat, thank goodness it's not Jim Webb. THAT would have sunk me.

Jill
Writes Like She Talks

 

Very interesting comments about
Dukakis/Bentsen Denise

...in this link to Tony Campbell's "Back to the Future" piece for the Examiner.

I can't agree, analytically. Michael Dukakis -- as a brand, a politician, a man -- is no Barack Obama. It's like comparing inviting people to fundraise, volunteer and vote to save a special cross-country skiing park in Vermont to inviting people to fundraise, volunteer and vote for an Olympic giant slalom downhill event.

An ear-to-ear (LOL) comparison puts Obama in a different galaxy.

Lisa Stone
BlogHer Co-founder
Surfette

 

I'm not jumping up and down over Obama/Biden

...but I'm sure my candidate has his reasons. And I will learn them soon.

I'm still pulling for Sebelius.

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

 

Biden: He's Clean and Articulate

I'm with all of you... 

Sebelius would have been the inspired choice.

Bayh was the logical choice

Biden Choice Unsettling...

First: Can the US afford another aggressive Presidential Id trying to show the young whippersnapper how to run the country...i.e. world?

Second: Is it a good thing when a Republican likes your Veep Choice?  

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/opinion/22brooks.html

 

 

 

 

I was just thinking about you

Young whippersnapper! Aggressive Presidential Id.

Awesome.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

xox

I have to go back in my cave now, of course....call this my midnight slip...

great to hear from you as well.  

 

Wah!

Sneak out of your cave again soon. During DNC? After McCain announces? When Biden performs his first "misspeak"?

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

I should have said...Articulate?

No doubt Biden will fill the foreign policy void. But the Netroots can't handle Biden's truth. He didn't even bother to go to the Daily Kos or Netroots Candidate events.

And, well, how long will it be before Obama tells Biden to put a sock in it?

Even a U.S. President can take only so much lecturing. 

 

 

 

 

If he was smart and experienced and

had good advisers, I'd guess he has already told Biden not to open his mouth unless given permission first.

~Denise
BlogHer Community Manager

Flamingo House Happenings

 

A word of comfort ...

but humor first:

Biden: "I will count to ten before I speak...I will count to ten before I speak...I will...f#$k this! Now you listen to me, Barack!"

 I should add that there is NO politician in Washington who has a truly global view of foreign policy, nor a greater understanding of the Muslim culture and those regions. This may seem obvious given he is the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. But seriously, he has an aide who literally has hung out in caves in Afghanistan. Biden truly does know his stuff.

Which begs the question: can the Senate, and all those credit card companies in Delaware, afford to lose a player of Biden's ilk?  

  

 

LOL

Clean and articulate, where have we heard that one before. LOL

Virginia DeBolt
BlogHer Technology Contributing Editor
Web Teacher
First 50 Words

 

Can I just say...

...I'm disappointed it wasn't my text that told me...but..

I am PROUD the main stream media investigated and broke a story. They did their jobs, and it's about time. I feel like they've been chasing our news cycle for so long...

They finally got one.

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

 

Obama's First Broken Campaign Promise?

Trying to be objective here but...

 

http://www.barackobama.com/splash/first_to_know.html

 

:-/ 

 

 

oh please

It's called a scoop!

Politics & News Contributing Editor
Queen of Spain

 

Well then Mr. Obama: the Old Media Lion has
awoken