Voters, tell us what you want: Should BlogHer interview presidential candidates or stick to their spouses?

Hi everyone,

This headline isn't a gimmick--it represents a real choice BlogHer needs to make in our 2008 Election coverage, and we need to hear from you and your readers to head in the right direction (see poll below).


 

BlogHer's Election 2008 coverage was created in response to the terrific enthusiasm this community demonstrated while developing our non-partisan 2008 Voter Manifesto, twelve policy questions American women have about health care, Iraq, the economy and the environment.

Frankly, however, our political team is confused by the response of presidential candidates to BlogHer, and to some other organizations and blogs by women. For the past six months, BlogHer has invited seven leading presidential candidates -- Democratic and Republican, we're non-partisan -- to participate with BlogHer's influential, passionate community of now 7.6 million techno-savvy women, who write and read thousands of influential blogs. While our editors, Morra Aarons-Mele and Mary Katharine Ham have made in-roads with the campaigns and we do have another year until Election Day, at this point we've been told no, both in words and in actions, as have some other women's blogs and political groups.

And there’s more -- what really confuses us is that:

  • Instead of the presidential candidates, BlogHer has been offered an opportunity to interview two candidate spouses, Ann Romney and Michelle Obama (more in our action timeline below)
  • Just this week, two presidential campaigns (Senators Clinton and Obama) started marketing new Web sites devoted exclusively to women, even specifically to moms. These are the very women who populate BlogHer's conferences, visit our sites and write the blogs in our ad network. In fact, if they’re trying to reach moms, the majority of BlogHer's 1,100 BlogHer Ad Network members are mothers, and most blog about that parenting experience! (More detail, including their recruiting letters to women and moms in our action timeline below.)
  • I believe these candidates are missing a key piece of the social media puzzle where women voters are concerned so I'll spell it out here: BlogHer's surveys demonstrate time and again the extraordinary influence of women who blog. According to our most recent survey, 62 percent of our bloggers and their readers have purchased a product based on a recommendation from a blogger and 52 percent have recommended a product to friends online. Presidential candidates – the ultimate product in an election year -- who earn the votes of these women stand to benefit from blogger influence in our communities! Women who blog are an essential and influential segment of the American female population that has made up the majority of American voters since 1964.

    So our question is, do we want to be marketed to by presidential campaigns or spoken with? And by whom? We think that if they want to get our votes, candidates themselves should answer our questions in the Voter Manifesto. But only if that’s the course this community supports. So -- could you please lead us in the right direction by answering these questions and asking your readers to help us too by posting this poll on your blog? We’ll take all our votes and our voices on this poll right to the presidential campaigns.

    How Should Presidential Candidates Earn Women’s Votes?

    CLICK HERE to take the survey questions described below

    1. Do you want BlogHer to talk with the candidates themselves -- Obama, Hillary, Mitt, etc.-- or will their families and supporters -- Oprah, Chelsea, Ann, etc. -- do?

    Candidates
    Spouses and supporters
    Both
    None

    2. Do you want presidential candidates to answer policy questions in the Voter Manifesto?

    Yes, on video
    Yes, in print
    No, the candidates don't have to but the campaign should
    No, I have a different question I'd like to ask: (Open-ended question)

    3. Are you turned on or turned off by the candidate’s tactics to reach moms (as spelled out below)?
    I like efforts like “Women for Obama” and “Moms for Hillary”
    I’m turned off by these efforts
    Other ____

    4. Do you want BlogHer to interview mainstream media personalities who have interviewed and know the candidates and their positions?

    Katie Couric | CBS
    Gwen Ifill | PBS
    Rosie O'Donnell
    Mara Liasson | NPR
    Oprah Winfrey
    Barbara Walters | ABC
    No
    Other ____________

    5. Where do you get most of your news?

    Newspapers
    TV
    Radio
    Internet
    Blogs

    6. Do you have a message for the candidates about this initiative that you’d like to share?

    Thank you so much for voting! And to provide you with more information, here's a timeline of the past year and the work BlogHer has done to bring your questions to candidates:

    Jan 2007:
    -Democratic Senators Obama and Clinton announce candidacies in same week, resulting in a rash of excited election-related posts from blogs that rarely if ever talk politics

    May/June 2007:
    -BlogHer reaches out to representatives of Democratic and Republican campaigns to invite staffers to speak at and/or to attend BlogHer 2007 in Chicago.

    July 2007:
    - Clinton and Edwards campaigns send representatives to BlogHer 2007, with 800 women in Chicago. Elizabeth Edwards keynotes.
    - All seven Democratic candidates attend the Yearly Kos convention in Chicago, with 1,000 progressive political bloggers. In response, PunditMom blogs "An Open Letter From the Candidates" on The Huffington Post.

    Aug/Sept 2007:
    - BlogHer is offered interviews via conference call with two wives of presidential candidates, Michelle Obama and Ann Romney.
    - Rudy Giuliani addresses 1,500 women at the National Federation of Republican Women in Palm Springs, CA; he is the only Republican candidate to attend.
    - The Chicago Moms Blog invites the Obamas to a meeting and get turned down, while a sister blogger on the Silicon Valley Moms Blog donates her way into a meeting they have with Oprah.
    - Hillary Clinton agrees to answer questions submitted to iVillage.

    Oct 2007:
    -BlogHer invites Candidates Clinton, Edwards, Obama, (Democrats) and Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Thompson (Republicans) to answer Voter Manifesto questions on-camera, including an offer to fly to the U.S. location of the candidate's choice and be interviewed for 15 minutes by a member of her or his own political party, by either Editor Morra Aarons or Editor Mary Katharine Ham (also of Townhall.com). No candidate accepts.
    -BlogHer co-sponsors 10questions.com, a techpresident.com initiative co-sponsored by The New York Times and MSNBC.

    Nov 2007:
    -BlogHer re-invites candidates to answer Voter Manifesto questions on-camera. No candidate accepts.
    -BlogHer members submit questions to 10questions.

    Dec 2007: BlogHer re-invites candidates.
    -Candidates John Edwards and Mike Huckabee submit answers to 10questions.com. Candidate Ron Paul also agrees to participate, according to the site.
    - Sen. Obama tours Iowa with Oprah Winfrey and his campaign launches "Women for Obama":

    "As part of the Obama for America campaign effort to engage women across the country, the Women for Obama team is reaching out to women's political blogs, seeking ways to bring useful information about Barack, his policies, his record and his approach to leadership to women on line.

    "Would you be interested in sharing information about Barack with your readers? Perhaps by linking to our website (www.women.barackobama.com)? Could we send you our weekly e-newsletter, for use in your own blog? Do you ever invite guest bloggers? We would happily arrange for a senior member of Barack's political or policy advisory teams to provide insight into the campaign, his policy proposals, how women are reacting to or affected by the election, etc.

    "As background, Women for Obama is a national grassroots network of 20,000 women working in the field every day on behalf of Senator Barack Obama. They serve as the backbone of our operation on the ground by reaching out to undecided women and organizing supporters to play an active role in their communities to help elect Obama their next President. Through organizing activities such as canvassing, phone banks, book clubs, house parties, community donation drives, caucus and primary trainings, fundraising and online outreach, Women for Obama has engaged women throughout this country who are now positioned to make the difference in this election..."

    - A few days later, Sen. Clinton's campaign launches Moms for Hillary with this offer:

    "Sign up to become a Mom for Hillary and you could win a special Mom's Night Out!

    "The holidays are in full swing - what would you want most? A night when you can put up your feet with your favorite pals and have someone throw a party for YOU! You can be that one lucky person who is randomly selected from the first moms who sign-up on the Moms for Hillary website to receive a fabulous - and very unique - prize.

    "Not one - but two - former White House Social Secretaries, Ann Stock and Capricia Marshall, will plan and execute a lovely gathering for you and your favorite moms. They will come with a bundle of campaign goodies, including t-shirts, bumper stickers, a signed book and lots of stories about Hillary.

    "Holidays are Hillary's favorite time of the year! Let Ann and Capricia tell you all about Hillary's family's special traditions and favorite things! The event will be at a venue and date selected at the discretion of the Committee in consultation with the winner."

    Again, please let these candidates know who you are and what you think! We invite you to add your comments to this post, as well as link your blog and any of your writings about our question or any Election 2008 issue. If you are so inspired, we would very much appreciate your help spreading the word about this poll, which you can place on your own blog by copying and pasting this link.

    We look forward to your thoughts –

    Best,
    Lisa

    For Elisa, Jory and Lisa

    Comments

     

    Thanks, Lisa. I took the

    By: arse poetica

    Thanks, Lisa. I took the survey, and I look forward to seeing the results.

    ae
    arse poetica


     

    Thank you AE!

    By: Lisa Stone

    Yours is one of the first blogs I discovered when I blogged the 2004 Democratic National Convention for the Los Angeles Times, and is still one of the best-named blogs ever...

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

    Thanks Lisa

    By: Morra Aarons

    Here's my two cents over at TechPresident.

    Maybe it's about Iowa and New Hampshire and that's it....


     

    Took the survey and posted on it.

    By: Catherine Morgan

    Hi Lisa. I took the survey, and also posted on it at "The Political Voices of Women". I'll post on it at "Informed Voters" tomorrow.

    Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan
    also at CatherineBlogs.com and The Political Voices of Women


     

    Thank you Morra, Catherine!

    By: Lisa Stone

    By the way, the conversation is also continuing over here on my newsletter post.

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

    That strikes me as really strange. I mean, I get that spouses are part of the campaign team, but we need our questions answered by the candidates, obviously.

    I took the survey...

    Liz Rizzo

    I blog at Everyday Goddess.


     

    I took it

    By: Virginia DeBolt

    I just completed the survey.

    I don't think women want to be put in some special category that needs handling. We are as capable of judging issues on the face of it as male voters.

    It doesn't sit well with me when the candidates take a position that women, who number over 50% of the population and registered voters, aren't worth responding to personally.

    http://www.webteacher.ws/
    http://first50.wordpress.com/


     

    I Want to See the Candidates Themselves

    By: Sarah

    I wrote a post about this after the BlogHer conference. I'd love to see the candidates themselves talking to us. I vote and I care.

    BlogHer Contributing Editor, Sports and Fitness
    Sarah and the Goon Squad
    Draft Day Suit


     

    Survey says

    By: Suzanne Reisman

    I took the survey, too. While I love that the candidates' wives talk to us, I think the candidates should be addressing us as well. After all, the candidates are officially running for office, not the spouses.

    Suzanne Reisman, Contributing Editor - Feminism & Gender
    Campaign for Unshaved Snatch (CUSS)& Other Rants


     

    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for voting - I just updated our other post with the feedback (here: http://www.blogher.com/please-tell-us-should-blogher-interview-president...).

    Here are your responses thus far to the first question:

    Do you want BlogHer to talk with the candidates themselves -- Obama, Hillary, Mitt, etc.-- or will their families and supporters -- Oprah, Chelsea, Ann, etc. -- do?

    55.56% say Candidates
    4.44% say Spouses and supporters
    35.56% say Both (Candidates AND Spouses and supporters

    Also, most of you say you're turned off by the outreach to women and moms.

    Please, keep the votes coming!

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

    I am new here, my opinion is subject to change as read learn more about this site. However I must say this article I just looked over..well the first thing that comes to mind is 'WoW!'

    Over all it reads like this to me. Your whining because you were turned down on your offers. It came off self important, and rather childish with vein attempts and making it seem you are the key to getting the female vote. I don't know if that was your intention or not but it sure seems like it.

    The truth is I had never heard of this site until yesterday. And I found out about it in rather obscure way via your Second Life outings and video casts from there. Speaking in the scheme of my internet activity it was a obscure way of finding this site, because I am politically active engaged female voter. I am no stranger to the new media and the revolution that has started because of this new media. I have read blogs for some time and have recently started bloging myself though it is more for my personal entertainment. If others find it interesting so be it. I am an active participant in one the newest web 2.0 experiments called Second Life. The point being is perhaps they decline your invitation because they don't view it as something that will be the best way to spend their time. There was blogging before blogher, and no doubt will be should something happen to blogher. The blog sphere is big place and this is but one smallish cog in it comparatively speaking to the whole.

    Let's face it these people at this point have to use shoot gun approach at getting in touch with would be voters. I can't begrudge them at finding the most effective targets to send media blast at. Beyond that blogging, web 2.0, is new still largely unproven technology. The media dinosaurs though on the way out still run the show and are waiting to see if it sticks or not. They haven't figured out the all important question of how do we profit from it. What really scares them is, they can't control it. Sure they can hire people to perhaps push it, nudge it or sway it, but make no mistake it's wild beast that can easily claw your face off just as much help you.

    It also comes across as you have your favorites picked out. If that's the case why as candidate would I want to waste my time with people who have already made up their minds, or expose myself willingly to people who will be hostile toward me and my causes. If you genuinely want to offer a platform for open debate and exchange of ideas I'd suggest slightly less visibly slanted point of view. You claim your non-partisan. This article doesn't read that way at all. It only got worst as read on with the two political commercials toward the end.

    The Obama one was fairly classic approach reach out to the undecideds and guide them to the promise land. I get so tried of that line of horse doodoo, to put it politely. Yeah reach out to them to make them see it your way or else. Do you think they will give 2 cents about you if you decided to vote for someone else. How about instead encouraging people to learn the issues from all sides and vote upon the information you garnered yourself and were not spoon feed by some glossy finely crafted words, or the self proclaimed experts other wise know as celebrities. And then you stand on the issues, and for good or ill the informed people decided if your views are the ones that most closely match with theirs. Oh no, can't do that then we'd have people who are thinking for themselves. That's dangerous!

    Just as it couldn't get any worse there was the Hilary advert... Vote for Hilary we will give you prizes! After I barely suppressed the reflexive reaction of spitting my diet soda all over my monitor I literary just sat in my office chair blinking for easily five minutes just marveling. The level of pandering in that advert is new all time recored. Don't join us because we care about the issues that matter to you, nope it was the 'do you want a cookie little girl?" tactic. Amazing truly amazing....

    I read many of the comments and what confuses me is there is the over all agreement that you want woman voters to be treated equally. Yet at the same time you want to be personally addressed. Nay, you are demanding that they answer your questions! Well it can't work both ways, my friends. If you want to be treated like everybody else that means you have to wait in line like the rest until the candiates deem the value of their time is best spent addressing the crowd at blogher.

    These are just my opinions based on my observations. Yes I know like said I am sure most of you hate me now. I do apologize to those that might find my views offensive and have interrupted your day. I will not however apologize for my views. Take them or leave them, but I am not such very un-ordinary woman, so I doubt I am the only one with similar feelings on what I read here. I just thought you might like to know what some outsider and new comer might be seeing. It might help you evaluate why perhaps you have been thus far turned down.

    Lucinda
    Goddess of Giant Robots


     

    Hi Lucinda,

    You're right, I couldn't disagree more with some of your points, but I wholeheartedly agree with others. Let's break it down:

    My point is that at the same time candidates are using the Internet to market to women, via Moms for Hillary and Women for Obama, most presidential campaigns appear to be avoiding explicit invitations to speak with women online, including:
    - BlogHer, either at our conferences or via video with our openly partisan bloggers, Mary Katherine Ham of Townhall.com on the right, and Morra Aarons-Mele on the left
    - 10Questions.com, the techpresident initiative that is being led by a broad consortium of mainstream and social media sources for politics and news
    - The National Federation of Republican Women (if you read the timeline above, you'll see their conference of 1,500 women was able to turn out only one candidate, Rudy Giuliani)

    You're right: It's not just about us. As I just posted on our other discussion begun by BlogHer's newsletter (here), Sen. John Edwards is actually the lone candidate who has responded to the huge 10questions initiative (led by techpresident and co-sponsored by The New York Times and MSNBC, as well as a rash of online media organizations including BlogHer). Mike Huckabee has a few answers and Ron Paul has committed to participate. That turnout is better than the response BlogHer has received, but it inspired NewTeeVee blogger Chris Albrecht to ask, "R.I.P. UGC in this presidential race?" Check it out -- think he's right? And what can we do to shake that up?

    I included the excerpts from the Moms for Hillary and Women for Obama emails expressly so that readers of this blog could see the language for themselves -- and the majority of our poll responses thus far indicate bloggers are turned off by this language as you are. I don't know why you've decided to interpret my decision to report those emails as an endorsement for those candidates -- it isn't. I urge you to re-read that section. That said, thanks for adding your comments on these ads and I'll add them to our wrap-up report next week.

    I agree with you that "The media dinosaurs though on the way out still run the show and are waiting to see if it sticks or not. They haven't figured out the all important question of how do we profit from it. What really scares them is, they can't control it. Sure they can hire people to perhaps push it, nudge it or sway it, but make no mistake it's wild beast that can easily claw your face off just as much help you."

    BlogHer's community, where politics is woven into women's ongoing discussions about our every day lives, seems much more representative about how many voters live with and think about politics. We don't just do politics -- what a great opportunity for candidates!

    However, I strongly disagree with you that "Beyond that blogging, web 2.0, is new still largely unproven technology." Our data, shared above, consistently demonstrate the value women online place on this space -- look at your own online habits and how they have changed your life. I think the 2004 election and the record of Howard Dean's campaign, and the role of sites from DailyKos to networks like Pajamas Media are a superb indication of how important this space is to voters and elections today.

    And while it's not just about BlogHer, we are unique in the space today, absolutely. There's no other entity that lists so many blogs by women, that exists to drive traffic to these blogs, nor partners with more than 1,000 blogs on a revenue-share basis, nor that reaches 7.6 million unique women every month through our network.

    As a co-founder here, I think it's essential that I continue to come back to the community and ask everyone to lead us where we want to go. And that's why I'm not assuming that folks don't want Morra and Mary Katharine to interview the candidates' spouses.

    At the same time, I think it's perfectly appropriate for this community to vote that they want us to keep trying to engage the candidates on the policy issues this community brings up time and time again -- and a written response from candidates is indeed one of the options in our survey.

    We are standing up and asking to be taken seriously as a massive group of influential women who vote the issues -- whether or not we are moms, and whether or not we are interested in finding out more about the candidates' spouses -- and whose blogs are very influential with other voters who care too.

    This is an important group effort and will continue to be.

    Thanks again for feedback.

    Best,
    Lisa

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

    Ah you said the magic words that one so rarely hears Agree to Disagree! It's good to see there are those still out there willing to come to a civil end as that. I do want to clarify a few of the points.

    Please by no means did I ever suggest you stop doing what your doing! And I did re-read and yes I can see that I didn't have enough of the mentioned diet soda with it's elixir of caffeine in my system. I see now what your saying far clearer thanks to you taking the time to point me in the right direction. I am a passionate person and get worked up and perhaps shoot off sooner then I should. I am woman enough to admit when I was wrong.

    On the point about Web 2.0 being unproven I should make it clear I agree with you it is shape of the future of nearly every facet of our lives will be and it here today. It will be part of how we, work, play and live. However in old media's eyes it is unproven or they are hoping it is. As stated they still don't know how to fully quantify directly the results of web 2.0 outing. They don't know how to make the bottom line with it. And as stated it really dose scare them. What little control they can have over it can be lost in instant. That is the real thing that is holding them back from getting with the program. Eventually they will or they will be lost to the pages of history. I think these times are much like what happened in entertainment when talking pictures were introduced. A good many people thought it was a fade back then. Some people who weren't cut out for the new world we left by the way side. But I wander to far from the point. Which is the candidates are having to still deal with the old media types and also they themselves are boggled by this very different and rapidly changing world. Who can blame them on some counts. I am involved in it and sometimes even I have trouble with keeping up.

    I was perhaps to harsh in the way made my points. Over all really what I was trying to say is I doubt this site is being singled out to be ignored. I think it far more likely that the candidates are simply trying to find ways to reach the broadest base of people at this point in the race. We are still year out from this thing, and please if you don't want to read a tirade a mile long lets not even get into the fact the this election and how early it started. OK just quick one..TWO years out this started. At this rate a President will have to win two terms to actually do anything. First year would be to get settled in, year two they get some work done and year three and four they have to campaign for the next election. ACK!

    Don't give up but don't assume they won't ever respond, we are in the first round of 12 round fight.

    Thanks for taking the time to read, and respond. And Yes please keep pushing it's all we can do. Best of luck to you.

    Be Well

    Lucinda
    Goddess of Giant Robots


     

    Amen to this:

    By: Lisa Stone

    "the candidates are having to still deal with the old media types and also they themselves are boggled by this very different and rapidly changing world. Who can blame them on some counts. I am involved in it and sometimes even I have trouble with keeping up...

    You're so right. That's why I'm eager to have the women on this site turn out a strong message to the candidates and help make the case to engage.

    Lucinda, it is such a pleasure to have you come back and keep talking. I appreciate you blogging your unvarnished opinion here -- I think this site's political and Election 2008 coverage would be improved if all of us engaged as passionately as you do. I admire your willingness to come back and re-engage and give me a second read, thank you.

    With your help, we WILL keep pushing!

    Best,
    Lisa

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

    Every voter who isn't in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina or Nevada is basically getting ignored right now, unless they are a voter...at the same time, campaigns target blocs of voters, because it's an efficient use of their time. Nurses. African Americans. Women. So we're saying, you're targeting women voters, here's a few million of them, have at it.

    And campaigns are saying, wait, we have more urgent needs. The Obama campaign did it right, with Oprah, in early primary states. Hillary brought her mother and daughter to campaign with her. In Iowa. That's their prerogative. That's the American electoral system, where early primaries are all-powerful. But it sucks.

    By the way, here's a good project: The National Presidential Caucus


     

    Thanks Morra.

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette


     

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    By: Roberta

    Interesting poll. I responded and hope that it will help keep womens issues in the campaign if Hillary doesn't make it as the democratic nominee.

    Birdsword


     

    Thanks for voting Roberta!

    By: Lisa Stone

    Lisa Stone
    BlogHer Co-founder
    Surfette