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What Did Mike Tyson Say about Sarah Palin?

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I never thought I’d be defending Sarah Palin. On the other hand, I never thought I’d be quoting former boxer and convicted rapist Mike Tyson in connection with the lightweight, self-aggrandizing political gadfly. Whose ability to command attention and endorsements appears to be second only to Snooki’s. But there you go.

Last week, in an interview with a Las Vegas radio station, Tyson was asked about an affair Palin had years ago with basketball star Glen Rice, as reported in Joe McGinniss’s gossipy new book The Rogue.

First, why anyone would ask Tyson anything about women or assume that he’d read a political biography is beyond me. But there you go. (I have a feeling I’m going to be using that phrase again.)

Tyson, unsurprisingly, responded with a particularly crass remark, describing Palin’s sexual encounter as a “wombshifter”--a term, which until recently, I was blissfully unaware of--and other offensive comments about interracial sex.

That might have been the end of it. This is Vegas, after all, hardly a hotbed of radical feminism. But then Tucker Carlson posted a story on The Daily Caller headlined “Mike Tyson: Sarah Palin met the wombshifter.” Which then incited his “friend,” Fox news anchor and Palin apologist Greta van Sustern, to go on her blog and accuse Carlson of poor news judgment and insensitivity toward violence to women. Thereby, of course, drawing even more curiosity about the post and Tyson’s foul remarks, while also remaining primly above the fray.

As van Sustern wrote, “I am deliberately not putting the link up since I am not going to help Tucker be a pig…he apparently can do it all himself without my help.”

She then asked him to take down the post. Which he did not. Though he did insert an editor’s note conceding Tyson’s comments were “indeed repulsive, and not suitable for younger readers or those who are easily shocked.” Carlson also defended the newsworthy value of the post by arguing that it was a public service of sorts. Why, you’d never see this kind of story in the New York Times!

Exactly.

Without getting into the weeds too much, I do think the controversy raises some interesting questions. For instance, should a public figure’s comments, no matter how cringingly anti-female and disgusting, always be reported? If they are, is it incumbent upon the writer to offer a perspective on how outrageous they are—which The Daily Caller initially failed to do? (We used to call this reporting.) Or to remind readers that the author of said misogynistic remarks is a felon who served time in prison for rape and has a history of beating up women? (See previous parenthetical.)

As for van Sustern, if she was so disturbed that Carlson ran the post, why didn’t she just complain to him about it on the phone and spare us the drama? She says she emailed him, but when she didn’t hear back from him after a day she decided to go public. Why the ruse of withholding the link? Is van Sustern standing up for women, as she says, by refusing to link to the post? Or is she being a tad self-righteous given that most readers will probably immediately search for it out of curiosity? Should we run the link?

Finally, if you call another journalist a pig, can you still be friends?

Here’s my take: I think van Sustern should have shared the link, then let women decide if they wanted to read it. I don’t think we do women--or men, for that matter--any favors when men publicly denigrate women by censoring or ignoring the language they specifically use. Yes, Tyson’s words were disgusting. Although I hate Palin’s politics, his remarks about her were especially nauseating. (Note to conservatives: See, liberals don’t just defend liberals against sexism!) But that’s precisely why we need to hear them, so we know what we’re up against and can fight back.

Take that, Mike Tyson.

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Credit Image: © Mike Eliason/Santa Barbara News-Press/ZUMAPRESS.com/

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Nordette Adams 10 pts

"First, why anyone would ask Tyson anything about women or assume that he’d read a political biography is beyond me."

And then ask, "Why does Tucker Carlson have airtime on a major anything?" and you may see why some people think America's in a downward spiral.

Ceeb 5 pts

Palin and Tyson deserve each other.

BlackLotusButterfly 7 pts

Forgive me for not 'jumping into the fray', and I'm not one for confrontation, but sometimes I wonder if words spoken by certain people make other people uncomfortable because they have a 'history' that may not be without fault, they are public figures,and are therefore judged by the majority, or is it something else about the person that gets folks worked up?

There are so many 'worse' things that could've come out of Mike Tyson's mouth ( and they have), many that have come out of everyday folks mouths (without us knowing their backstory) and its like a 'whatever' in the wind. Whether Mike did what he did or not, if you did not like what he said then just focus on what he said about Sarah,not his crimes. Just because someone commits a crime does not make them unworthy,its not for anyone to point or judge because everyone has wrongs, or skeletons that may not be too 'awesome'. Let he without sin cast the first stone...yadda yadda yadda...I look forward to reading more of your posts. Take care.

Mona Gable 5 pts

BlackLotusButterfly Thanks for your point of view and thoughtful words.

haveopenings 5 pts

Tyson is a joke. Palin is a joke. When will either party come up with a true leader to lead this country.

BigFatGini 8 pts

In a 24 hour news cycle, there is no shortage of time to fill in the gaps. It reminds me of the saying, "if it bleeds, it leads" although, at this point it seems more like everything is a ploy to get ratings and sell books. As a conservative, I haven't made up my mind about Sarah Palin. In some ways, I feel that she is honest and refreshing in a world full of those who are more worried about holding on to power, rather than stand up for what's right or do the job their constituents believed they would do. On the other hand, it seems that she's turned into a professional victim of sorts. Regardless, those types of comments are vulgar and have no place among thinking society.The world sure would be a much nicer place if we turned off the computer and television for a little while and stopped giving people like Mike Tyson attention for having no filter (though at least he's taken a break from beating his spouse, so hey, kudos for that). And the more we do that, the better off the generations who follow us will be.

abednigo 5 pts

Gawd. Just Shut up! It's "udder-ly" amazing how you women are your own worst enemies, especially to other women. It's Mike Tyson, who cares? Well, you do apparently. Disgusting things are said by all people to all other people. Yet, because it's Mike Tyson or Sarah Palin, it's significant? Or is it because this story is about a man saying something to a woman? ANYONE can have an opinion. So what?! Writers are like pregnant women who can never do anything wrong. Their hormonal emotions are all justified because they're pregnant with a "better" view of humanity somehow. Way to add more fuel the fire you're endeavoring to be putting out.

Brett Paesel 5 pts

Wow. Great analysis and questions to ask. And I don't have the answers. Thanks for your thoughtful exploration of the drama.

edin 5 pts

Solid responsible reporting is refreshing!

kofybean 7 pts

Mona Gable you delete all comments not favorable to your view, or shows you as wrong. Therefore you do not believe in solid reporting, you believe in bias censorship. People like that only censor the truth because it frightens them.

Denise 114 pts moderator

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abednigo 5 pts

Denisekofybean So then it's basically: you have writers and editors who remove non-conforming viewpoints. Well, glad to know you just pass the buck. You've learned well on american politics.

Denise 114 pts moderator

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Stacie Sumner McDonald
Stacie Sumner McDonald

I am no fan of Palin, but it's a shame it's getting so much coverage. Mike Tyson said something stupid and inappropriate? That isn't news... Unfortunately, now the word "wombshifter" has gone viral. This is an increase in vocabulary that we don't need.