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What Would You Do If Your Boss Said You Couldn't Attend A Meeting Because Your Client Didn't Want To Work With A Woman?

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Given corporate America's sensitivities to discrimination lawsuits, it seems unfathomable that a manager in today's litigious environment would sit down with and employee and very specifically say,"you can't attend the meeting because you are a woman."

As implausible as that conversation may seem in 2009, it is occurring in offices throughout global organizations that have clients in countries that are not female-friendly.

Recently I was chatting with a woman who was in that exact situation and not only was the issue discussed out in the open, she wholly endorsed her boss's decision to exclude her from the trip and meeting,saying, " I wouldn't feel comfortable going to that country and dealing with men who didn't want anything to do with me."

Now, I wouldn't feel particularly comfortable going to a meeting in Saudi Arabia either. And it's not just because I'm a woman. But then I didn't take an assignment to do work on a project that involved Saudi Arabia. I wasn't the leader of the project. I didn't have the most knowledge of the project, and I wasn't the one who had to get a substitute up to speed because the men refused to have me sit at the table.

I understand the issue of respecting another country's culture. I applaud all the work that corporations do to prepare their employees on how to be respectful and successful in other cultures. Hopefully, the stereotype of the ugly American is becoming a memory of a different generation.

But when making people in another country feel comfortable clashes with our core values of non-discrimination, it's time to re-think our behavior.For me, it's an ethical issue of paramount importance because the willingness to completely subjugate what is "right" for what is "expedient" says that the corporate America's commitment to non-discrimination is shallow and pliable at best.

The argument,of course, is that business in that region of the world can't be conducted with women involved and so it is an either or situation. Either insist on having women involved and losing the business, or win the business but intentionally discriminate against women employees. So far, American businesses  seem to have opted for the business.

Tracey Wilen is a leading expert in women in global business.  In addition to her work for Cisco Systems she has written several b oks for women working in the global workplace. she does have a website: www.globalwomen.biz but it is currently infected with malware and not available for review.
In an article for Vice Investigative Research & Analysis, Wilen provides detailed information on sexual harassment and discrimination throughout the world.

...male managers in the U.S. who are unfamiliar with more traditional societies may avoid sending female staff members to represent their companies to these cultures, fearing that these businesswomen cannot be effective in male-oriented societies. This viewpoint, however, may be keeping these executives from using what is in fact their strongest asset, since women’s perceived attributes — being good listeners, mediators, and consensus builders — are well-received in international business. Male managers only need to become knowledgeable about the situation in other countries and what their responsibilities are in the event of sexual harassment. They can then send their female staff members with confidence.

While it's easy to focus on how American women are discriminated overseas, that's not to say that all's quiet on the American front. In July, Dell Computers settled a gender discrimination lawsuit for $91 million.Part of that settlement will be used to bring women's salaries on par with male counterparts. Dells ays it is hiring an expert psychologist to review its employment practices.

The lawsuit was filed in 2008 by Jill Hubley, who was a senior strategist at a Dell division in Round Rock, Texas, where the company is based. She was later joined by Laura Guenther, a former Dell senior manager at the same location.

Their suit claimed that Dell “systematically denied equal employment opportunities to its female employees” in compensation and promotions, according the complaint. The company discriminated against women in training, in assignments of positions outside the U.S. and in programs designed to accelerate advancement, the complaint said.

By agreeing to the $91 million settlement, Dell averted admitting to any wrong doing.

Elana writes about business culture at FunnyBusiness

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lolitalee 5 pts

Honestly - just dont do business with them. They certainly arent going to take your presence personally, its just a cultural thing - so dont take their refusal to work with you personally. Its sad it exists, but hey......
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Elana Centor 5 pts

 I so appreciate you taking the time to share this story- it is fascinating and I learned a lot reading your comment.Now I'm going over to visit your blog!

elana
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LMAshton 5 pts

The conference was in Singapore and covered countries from all over Asia.

As to whether or not I was expecting that - yes. It's not much different than how things are done in Sri Lanka.

There's a bit more to the story than that. Let me give some context...

In some parts of the world, it's considered offensive for men to shake women's hands or otherwise touch a woman unless the man is married/related to the woman. Sri Lanka is, generally, one of those countries. (In polite situations. I'm discounting sexual predation for fun and sport, which happens frequently here.) When I meet Sri Lankan men, if they've not have many encounters with Westerners, they will not shake my hand and may not speak to me much. If they have had a lot of contact with Westerners, they will either wait to see what I do or they'll shake my hand. Foreigners, ie Americans, Canadians, Europeans, here do not have that same hesitation. BUT if those foreigners have read their guide books well enough, will not shake hands/touch those of the opposite gender, either. Add to that the language barrier - only something like 10% of Sri Lankans speak English. 

My husband, a Sri Lankan, reminds me that many menwho grew up in such cultures simply do not know what to do. Should they shake hands? Do they talk to the women? But how, without showing too much attention, which can be misconstrued in the worst ways? Most women aren't the power players in business here anyway, so...

Add to that how universities work in this country... There are the public universities, which are gov't run, and which do not cost the student. But there are very few places, so only the very very best students get in. Private universities are relatively expensive, so only the upper-middle class and higher can afford them. The richest send their children abroad for education to the US or UK, for example. So already, compared to the US and Canada, for example, it's much more difficult to get a degree. Families will push to get their sons into universities, but less so with their female children, although that's been changing over time as well.

There are women in power here. Sri Lanka's had a female prime minister and president (at least one, although I think her mother was also either a prime minister or president - I'm not up on my Sri Lankan history), which is ahead of the US. 

In all fairness, though, I believe - although I could be wrong - that when women are in power here, it tends to be because they had family money backing them. To push up through the ranks to succeed is much more difficult here, more so for women, but also for men. Status, Sri Lankan's version of the caste system, matters very very very much to most people here.

As for the company I was working for - that's a longer story. I work as a freelance writer (sometimes) with my husband, so he was there as well. He was more of the key player to them than I was - I doubt that company saw much value in me, despite the quality of work I do. But that's a whole other topic. They mainly wanted my husband at the conference and most likely considered me as a tag-along, or possibly as validation that the company was up and coming since I was the only white person working there for the company, and white people working for them is a good thing, shows an increase in status and all that. They had a few other women there as well, but they were there mainly for clerical work (answering phones, arranging appointments, getting coffee and refreshments, putting together sales kits), I think, since they didn't know the products at all. But even if they did, those particular men at that particular company had egos that were too big to allow women to know as much/more than them. But that's very much those specific individuals. Some companies are better, others are worse.

I believe the following years they took their usual staff, male and female, and the female staff likely did the exact same things as the previous year.The only difference would have been the absence of my husband and I.

And here's my disclaimer. I'm an outsider, a foreigner. I don't know everything that's going on here, and I could be wrong in some of my assessments. This is just my opinion.

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Elana Centor 5 pts

 I found your story so interesting and was wondering where the conference was held and whether not your were prepared for the reception you received.Was  your company was aware that a significant group of the target audience wouldn't even speak to you because of your gender?

When I was writing this piece, I was thinking about a different situation where the company already had the client but had to tell them person who had done all the work that she couldn't participate because of the client's cultural attitude towards women.

A sales situation is somewhat different and I'm wondering what that company did the following year.

elana
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LMAshton 5 pts

Here in Sri Lanka, if you were to look through the jobs wanted section, you would see it full of precise requirements for a job posting. "Male, 20 to 25, for..." "Female, 18-30 for..." Companies doing the hiring nearly always specify gender and age for every job. There may or may not be laws against gender, age, or other discrimination. It is openly practiced with no repercussions. Which also makes it nearly impossible, if not downright impossible,to break into a career path dominated by the opposite gender.

I attended a conference a couple of years ago as a representative for a software company. None of the Asian men would even acknowledge my presence at the booth, never mind talk to me about the technical details of the product, of which I was intimately versed in. North American men, however, actually shook my hand and paid attention when I introduced myself. It's too bad the Asian men were like this - I could have given them a better product presentation than most of my male counterparts.

It's unfortunate that it's like this here, but foreigners (of which I am very much one) cannot make the change. It will take the locals, both men and women, to force the change.

Laurie in Sri Lanka

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to conduct business, I think you should be respectful of that country's way of doing things.  It's the when in rome do what the romans do kind of thing.  It's not the company's job to modernize that country.  Consequently if they are coming to do business here, they have to get used to the idea that they will be working with managers and executives who are women and who daily make decisions that affect the company.  Hopefully the more the employees of the foreign company get used to the idea that women belong in our workplace, they can welcome our women employees to conduct business in their country.

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