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What's Not to Love About Google's New Recipe Search? Plenty.

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Whether you’re a food blogger who publishes recipes or you’re trying to find a great mac and cheese recipe for dinner, you just might not love Google’s new Recipe View.

I don’t love it.

Now, I’m neither a programmer, nor a webmaster, nor an expert. I’m a magazine food writer turned part-time blogger five years ago. I have two food blogs, a decent page rank on the more established blog, and a published archive of more than 800 recipes -- not one of which you’ll be able to find with Google’s new recipe search feature.

Google intends Recipe View to be a more refined search. When you type something that Google thinks is food related into the regular Google search bar, the new Recipes category appears in the sidebar. Click on it, and you’ll see checkboxes to help you narrow your search by ingredients, cook time, and calories.

Want to see how it works? One of the most popular recipes on The Perfect Pantry is this shrimp, lemon, herb and feta macaroni and cheese:

The Perfect Pantry shrimp, lemon, herb and feta macaroni and cheese

Below, you’ll see the results of a regular Google search for “shrimp lemon mac and cheese”:

screen shot google search

The recipe posted on my own blog comes up first and second in the results. In the top seven search results, my recipe hits seven times. In other words, you can’t miss it.

Using Google’s Recipe View and identical search terms, here are the results:

google recipe view screen shot

The third result (Tastebook) is one that used my recipe without crediting the source. (I didn’t know about it, but I’m glad to know now.) The other six results are from mega-recipe sites, and not one is a recipe for shrimp, lemon, herb and feta mac and cheese.

Why the discrepancy, when both searches are Google searches?

In order to have recipes included specifically in the new Recipe View, blogs need to code their posts using “rich snippets” -- blankets of HTML wrapped around images or at least two elements of text (ingredients, cook time, calorie counts, or ratings). Elise Bauer of Simply Recipes explains this in a post she wrote on Food Blog Alliance.

For the most part, only the largest and most tech-savvy food sites (Allrecipes.com, Food Network, Epicurious, etc.) and blogs like Simply Recipes have undertaken the massive job of coding their archives, so theirs are the recipes you’ll find with Recipe View.

I know what you’re thinking.

So, just get all of your recipes wrapped up in rich snippets, and you, too, will be included in Recipe View.

Here’s what I’m thinking: I’m not sure I want to do that, because I’m not sure Recipe View is good for food bloggers.

1. Cooking isn’t a fill-in-the-blank template. On The Official Google Blog, product manager Kavi Goel writes, “My parents follow the art of cooking by intuition, where the right amount of each spice is measured out by gut feel, but that’s never worked very well for me. As a math geek and computer engineer, I prefer to work with concrete numbers and instructions, including when cooking.”

Would you rather learn to cook from Mr. Goel or from his parents?

Cooking should be an expression of who you are, what you create, and the traditions passed down through your family or culture. Sometimes, that can’t be quantified. In the classes I teach, I occasionally hide the measuring spoons so my students learn to trust their tastebuds. David Lebovitz of DavidLebovitz.com tested one of his recipes with rich snippets; Google would not accept a cooking instruction of “2 to 3 minutes,” asking instead for 2 minutes or 3 minutes. Cooking isn’t like that. Sometimes, at some altitudes, on some humid days, on some wonky stoves, it might take 4 minutes. That’s the reality of cooking.

2. Diverse voices and styles feed our blogging creativity. Blogger, Wordpress, Typepad and other platforms eventually might create templates to help food bloggers code in rich snippets for their new posts, but the result could be that our recipes will all look and sound the same, i.e., how Google wants them to look and sound.

While there are some conventions for good recipe writing, the best food blogs incorporate those conventions in their own style and voice. What of blogs that demonstrate recipes in video, or step-by-step photographs, or illustrations like They

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redkathy 5 pts

You know the more one uses Google search, the more the engine knows about your search habits, and friends, and social places and on and on. Bing which I don'y really like, returns the same results a Google! And so does Yahoo search.

It's up to us to allow or not allow it!

vagatekeeper 5 pts

Well said Lydia! Google's new "recipe search" formatting requirements created a big stir among SBI recipe sites. Actually wondered if it would impact the few recipes in my Personal Cookbook, which oddly enough are among the most popular pages on my website. So I decided to select a few recipes and format them as per directions. As Lydia mentions, we do not all cook by the book or the template. I often do not even use recipes. To date, I've not noticed any significant change in search results with the formatting. Not sure I care to spend the time formatting every recipe I add to the site. And thanks to the recent knockdown from Panda, traffic and revenue are down the rabbit hole. Just my two cents worth, De Living In Woodbridge VA ( http://www.living-in-woodbridge-va.com )

Lydia 5 pts

This makes me feel a bit like the "Move Your Money" movement (which I support wholeheartedly) -- the notion that if enough of us move from the multinational banks to local banks, we can have a stronger impact and effect policy change. Same with Google; if enough people use another search engine as their default, or enough food bloggers do not implement rich snippets until it works in a way that's good for us *and* for our readers, we can effect change.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

redkathy 5 pts

What's even MORE ironic about this is Google, in it's recent ranking update, slapped many of the article farms. Now, isn't Google rewarding recipe article farms with this new recipe search category? Brings up "mega recipe sites" whose recipes may not be tried and true, who's recipes may be submitted by some of the same authors who write for those "farms" who received rank reductions....

Furthermore, is that little note from Google at end of the recipe search pages supposed to make food bloggers feel informed, perhaps comforted?

"These recipes are from sites that have identified their recipe content. More info for recipe publishers."

Ironic or Power Play? Maybe everyone should move to a different, small search engine and leverage the power!

Great post!

kitchenmage 6 pts

I am annoyed and boggled at the moment. Try this on for size.

I have a tool that rocks and it works on any platform. (Cool, because I am on Typepad.) So I get the thing working and go to kitchenMage to test against the validation gizmo. Typepad strips out the code!

There is no technical reason why they have to do this, but I tried all three formats and it removes the recipe snippet code so that it can not work on Typepad, even if you convert your recipes. I have dropped them DMs in twitter to see if I can talk to someone about it but if anyone can help get some answers about this part I'd appreciate it.

I am so...um, let's go with annoyed!

I still have to build the UI and do beta testing but I expect the tool to be available in the near future. Too bad I can't use it.

Stunned,
...beth

kitchenmage ( http://blog.kitchenmage.com/ )
Not Like Normal People ( http://www.notlikenormalpeople.com/ )

sasharambles 5 pts

I have to admit, when I first saw this on the google blog, I saw it as a good thing. But then, I have about a dozen recipes on my blog, and also happen to be a coder, so conversion isn't really much of an issue. You've given me some food for thought - thanks!

www.ramblesandramblings.com ( http://ramblesandramblings.com )

Lydia 5 pts

Susan, you make an excellent point about recipes for those with special dietary requirements. Many of the most knowledgeable experts are bloggers, whose recipes won't come up in GRS results unless they, too, begin to use rich snippets. That doesn't seem like Google's best way of serving recipe seekers,and I hope they are listening.

As to coding going forward, we'll all be interested to see how the Wordpress plug-in works for you. I've read mixed reports on it. But for those of us who are not Wordpress users, the options are limited to hand coding, or not coding. Still a long way to go on this. Thank you for adding to the conversation.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

SusanV 5 pts

As a vegan, I'm especially concerned that Google Recipe Search leaves out bloggers because for people with special dietary needs--vegans, celiacs, people with allergies, etc.--bloggers are the experts, not the big food sites. Food.com may have recipes that just happen to be vegan or gluten-free, but most of their contributors haven't done the day-in and day-out testing that bloggers do to make sure their recipes are not only tasty but also are compliant with their readers' special diets. A few big mainstream blogs are listed in GRS, but I couldn't find one vegan blog in all my searches for vegan recipes.

That said, I have to admit that I am adding hrecipe tags to all my recipes going forward and to a few popular ones in my archives. I don't feel like tagging my recipes impinges on my creativity, though coming up with a preparation time is a nuisance. I just wish that someone had told us a year or two ago that this was coming.

I also wanted to mention that you don't have to tag ingredient amounts--that's just an option, not a requirement. You can still use a range ("1/2-1 tsp."), a pinch, or "to taste" because it's the ingredient, not the amount, that's most important to Google. For cooking times, the hrecipe format demands a definite cooking time in the behind-the-scenes code it uses, but in the text that your readers actually see, you can be more general ("about 2-3 minutes".) I'm using the hrecipe Wordpress plugin because it doesn't require that amounts be specific, and after it does the heavy work of coding the elements of a recipe, I can edit the text that readers actually see. It adds extra steps to my blogging process, but I hope that it will make my recipes more accessible to search engines (not just Google) in the long run.

SusanV
FatFree Vegan Kitchen ( http://blog.fatfreevegan.com )

Lydia 5 pts

Lisa, I hope that Google will give us what we want, eventually -- and what we want is search engines that help users find the best the web has to offer, including our blogs.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

lisalawless 5 pts

I've thought about this since the unveiling of the new search option and agree with your view. Also, I recently attended TechMunch in Austin where panelists recommended giving Google what Google wants. I don't think it's a good idea. Although I don't always include full recipes in my posts, I don't intend to begin coding them differently when they are included. Likewise, I've used the new recipe search and don't find it worthwhile for how I search for food. I think Google still has some work to do to make the recipe search worthwhile.

lisa from lisa is cooking

http://lisaiscooking.blogspot.com/ 
@lisaiscooking 

Lydia 5 pts

I thought Amanda Hesser's piece was really well done, and points out that this recipe search isn't great for cooks, just as we bloggers feel it's not great for blogs. I hope Google is listening to all of this feedback with an eye toward improving their product. Meanwhile, I won't be spending my time going back to recode my archives.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

The Experimental Gourmand 5 pts

My post popular recipe - a riff on the Thai Beef Noodles that Jamie Oliver made in last season's Food Revolution - doesn't even show up. I also have a moderately-sized recipe archive that would be a real hassle to go back and re-code.

Amanda Hesser from Food52 also weighed in on this topic on their site. Seems quite a few folks are not too happy with the change. Recipes aren't the only thing I write about on my site, so I'll have to figure out what I'll do going forward.

Lydia 5 pts

Katy, we're all feeling the same way, trying to make the best (or most pragmatic) decision on what to do going forward, and hoping that Google will make changes that benefit us as "add to taste" food bloggers! Thanks for joining the conversation.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

Katy Carter 5 pts

At this point this (obviously) effects more recipe-driven food blogs than other-content-driven food blogs. So since my own blog is not as dependent on traffic from google recipe searches (I have less than 100 recipes, and those tend to be more Lebovitz-ish in their "add to taste" or "five to six" instructions), I'm not scrambling to make the changes, not even to new posts.

Of course, I can only hope that this decision is still valid in coming months.

Katy @
Thought for Food ( http://katymcarter.com )

Lydia 5 pts

Kelly, I always use the word "recipe" when I'm searching with Google, so I'm glad to know why that might not be the best strategy to get the search results you want. I do use Food Blog Search every day, and I often start with page 3 or 4 of the search results, where I know I will find many new-to-me food blogs.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

Lydia 5 pts

As someone with a moderate size archives (800+ recipes), and no paid staff, I can tell you that we are truly in a pickle. If we use something like RecipeSEO going forward, eventually we have to go backward and make all of our recipes uniform (it's like editing a cookbook, really). And while Recipe SEO is a great first iteration of a tool that might ultimately help bloggers, unless you are a good programmer yourself, you won't be able to customize the output. So, in the end, it's that lack of an individualized style that worries me. And that's why I say that I will wait for the 2.0 version of whatever this recipe search becomes. Hopefully, Google is listening, and will implement changes that will strengthen the product while allowing for more blogs to participate.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

kellypea 5 pts

Before the new recipe search feature began, I noticed my Google searches most often turned up the larger sites or a few blogs producing content steadily for a number of years. If I saw something I was immediately interested in, great -- but that often wasn't the case. To get the variety and specificity I was looking for, I've had good results choosing "more" in the sidebar on the left, and then "Blogs." Even then, I often skip to the 3rd or 4th page to scan the list and am always surprised with some good options for recipes and from sites I'm not familiar with which is a perk.

I also avoid using the word "recipe" when I search. It's as superfluous as using "and" as far as I'm concerned.

I have a self-hosted WordPress site and briefly looked at the plugin mentioned earlier here, but reviews of the plug in don't give good reviews -- in fact mention it's "broken" so I haven't had the opportunity to try to redo any of my content for different results. The popular recipes on my site seem unaffected by any of Google's changes at this point.

Great discussion, Lydia!

Kelly Wright

Sass & Veracity ( http://sassandveracity.com )

kellementology ( http://kellementology.com )

italianchef 5 pts

Yes that does stink that you can do all that work for nothing. What also stinks is this means you can't even do a small test group of recipes to see the effect and if it is actually worthwhile to go back and do your entire archive. Which is what I was trying to do, when I discovered that little nugget of info.

loraleechoate 6 pts

For my day gig I write for a magazine (Where Women Cook). We do have recipes on our blog but since the magazine only launched in December we are (thankfully) not in too deep for this to panic me.

Still, I spent 2 hours with my designers today trying to figure out what is best to do about this. Like many, we feature women and their passion about food, including their recipes in our magazine and website and frankly...we LOVE how individual each one is.

This utterly threatens that.

In the end, since we are not a recipe heavy site (at least not yet, that can always change down the road), we are going to go with the Recipe SEO plugin and see how it goes. And keep our eyes open for more development.

My heart goes out to those with hundreds of recipes under their belt already and no time or resources to revamp them.

So flipping annoying.

srawlings 5 pts

Susan Rawlings@susansboutique
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Yes, I agree, it is sad that Google does extract some of the creativity out of what I write as well. Nice to have a search engine that more or less sets the rules so you have a half a shot at learning the rules,BUT they do tend to make you churn your content a bit more to rank. Not loving that.

Lydia 5 pts

Thanks for posting this link. It's important to make our voices heard.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

spacegurlmd 5 pts

Like many others, I also tried GRS for my most popular recipe (Hearty Mushroom & Potato Soup) and even after clicking "no" on all the suggested ingredients, it was still nowhere to be found! Meanwhile, it's the first thing that pops up on a regular Google search... so yes, that ranking thing is definitely irksome.

I think that I will be using GRS to look for content theft so I can address it accordingly. I just searched for my most popular dessert and some site called KeyIngredient.com recently posted it. It hurts to see one's hard work out there when no one asked for it. Then again, who has the time to hunt for all the thieves? Oh well. At least GRS is good for something. :)

Kimberly @ Poor Girl Eats Well ( http://www.poorgirleatswell.com )

fdtotten 5 pts

GRS at the moment is more like a product search function but without checkout and pricing properties. The nature of database searching with directory overlay requires defined property fields for each product, in this case, the recipe. Anyone who has run an online store even with as little as 100 products will know the hassle of product setup, particularly if there is a legacy factor where there are pre-existing items to update. Online shopping/comparison/product search engines require specific data tags/properties which take time to setup, but less effort to maintain.

No doubt the GRS has a long ways to go, but food bloggers should not ignore it, rather consider GRS as another tool to promote content. A user who types specific keywords in Google Search, which is natural language oriented, will obtain more relevant results than with GRS - and that is what most food bloggers appear to be doing. But it would be good for the food blogging community to contribute to the ongoing development of GRS.

While there is no direct contact to the Google GRS product team, comments & suggestions can be left at the link below, which will be directed to them. If enough food bloggers comment to the product team for rich snippet creation tools and support for the solo/hobbyist blogger - there may be some follow through on it.

http://www.google.com/quality_form?q=google+recipe...

Matt's Cooking Secrets 5 pts

The system is more beneficial to the bloggers with a large number of recipes, if they manage to get them all converted to a rich snippet compliant format.

I'm lucky since I only just started, I went back and only had a couple of recipes to fix, but for someone with 100, 200, 500+ recipes, it is impractical to expect that they will be able to do change all of their past recipes.

It is possible to add rich snippets without changing the format/layout of your blog, but it would require more effort, and some tags (the "Amount" part of the ingredient) aren't always friendly with uncertain parts of recipes. For something like that, it would probably just be easier to have the amount in with the name in the ingredient tag as that would allow something like "1 - 2 Tbsp". Or that's how it seems to me, anyway.

Lydia 5 pts

Jack, that's great advice for those food bloggers for whom blogging is a full-time business, and whose blogging income permits them to hire tech support. For most of us, blogging is either a hobby, or a self-supporting hobby, or a part-time job. Thanks for sharing your strategy for getting back on top of the rankings.

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

Jack Burton542 5 pts

We had the same issue. Our rankling dropping off the page where we used to be on page 1. For us, blogging is our business so we hired an expert. In these times, you can probably find local experts in the same neighborhood that can help with search engine optimization at a low cost. We used a company called Argoworks and had most of our rankings back in a month.

Andrea Meyers 5 pts

The idea behind the recipe view is interesting, but too difficult for bloggers that aren't technically inclined and unworkable for the part-time bloggers try to contribute to their family's income. I'm technically inclined, but going back through hundreds of recipes to make them GRV friendly becomes a job in itself that takes away time from the the more important work of content creation.

In my view, the current version of GRV is designed to exclude, not include, and as you pointed out, does not allow for creative expression in recipe writing, which is sad.

~Andrea Meyers
www.andreasrecipes.com ( http://www.andreasrecipes.com )

Lydia 5 pts

Thank you all for adding your thoughts on this topic (and thanks to BlogHer for asking me to write about it!). I know that our blog readers will be better served by using regular Google search or Food Blog Search, at least for now, and I'm going to encourage my readers and the people who email to me with questions to use those search engines.

Google, are you listening?

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

ejm 5 pts

Are they kidding?! I know how to do the coding but it will take weeks to go through my archives to add rich snippets. Pfooey.

Thanks for posting about this.

Elizabeth
blog from OUR kitchen ( http://www.etherwork.net/blog/ )

CherylK 5 pts

This is such important information! I've often wondered why the results of a recipe search seem predictable. To have them skewed by Google...well, this is just not right on so many levels.

Thank you for the heads-up.

"If you find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere"

Lake Mary Musings ( http://www.lakemarymusings.com )

Leslie from inkitchenandgarden.com 5 pts

Very illuminating to a general blogger whose recipes bring a lot of traffic but who spends woefully little time worrying about SEO -

Also less and less time worrying about theft, because as far as I can see it's rampant and there really isn't anything you can do except waste REALLY a lot of time trying to make people behave. (Sometimes when I run across something particularly annoying, I post a comment saying "great post. Readers who enjoy it may want to check out the original, at ...")

But to the point. As a consumer, I've used the regular search to find recipes many times and as far as I can see it's more and more like the new recipe view - you get the same recipe time after time, first from one of the big sites and then from all the people re-posting. Result: I don't use the word "recipe" any more. Using "cups" "degrees" or other likely indicators along with title of traditional recipe and/or key ingredients produces a more interesting lineup.

Don't know if there are enough others like me to make you all feel better, but I'm sure I'm not completely alone.

Lydia 5 pts

Matt, thanks for mentioning the Wordpress plug-ins. (And yes, why didn't Google provide for their own with a Blogger solution?) But my concern is still the same -- that by using these plug-ins, our recipes will all have to conform to what Google thinks a recipe should look like.

Italianchef, isn't it awful to think that you could go through all of your recipes, hand-coding for rich snippets, and *still* not have them appear in the new recipe view?

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

italianchef 5 pts

I have been ranting and raving (quite futilely ) everywhere I can about this. It completely flies in the face of everything google claims to be about. If you read the troubleshooting for why your site doesn't show up, even if you have the snippets done correctly one reason is: "The site has very few pages (or very few pages with marked-up structured data) and may not be picked up by Google's Rich Snippets system."

So, it's completely skewed towards large sites and not at all doing what people come to google for, to search the entire web for the most relevant results.

Matt's Cooking Secrets 5 pts

How badly planned out the new recipe search is.

You mention how Typepad doesn't have a template that facilitates incorporating rich snippets, but Blogger, owned by google, also doesn't have the ability to use rich snippets, other than going into the post and editing the HTML code by hand.

Wordpress users have the hand up in this, as there are a couple of plugins floating around on the net. The Recipe Wiz ( http://www.therecipewiz.com/ ) and RecipeSEO ( http://recipeseo.com/ ) allow you to get the rich snippet code for recipes from the webpages, but doing that every time is not an ideal solution.

Lydia 5 pts

While I don't have a direct pipeline to Google, I know that some of you do, so I really hope they hear the concerns expressed here.

What I love about food bloggers is how much they care about making their blogs as user-friendly as possible. And, really, that's at the heart of my objection to the new recipe view. If people who are looking for recipes only hear the voices of a few, only find the creative recipes from a few, then they're missing out on the great resource of the food blogging community. Their loss, and food bloggers' loss, too.

Elise, I like the "paint by numbers" analogy. And though I, too, get a good percentage of my traffic from Google search, I'm not yet willing to let Google tell me how to blog.

If anyone knows an effective way to contact the development team, please post it here. I'm sure there are many BlogHers who'd be happy to add their voices to those of us who are already engaged in the conversation.

Many thanks, again, for great comments. Keep 'em coming!

Lydia
www.theperfectpantry.com ( http://www.theperfectpantry.com )and www.soupchick.com ( http://www.soupchick.com )

Elise Bauer 5 pts

Hi Lydia,

Thank you so much for taking the time to articulate the very real concerns that so many of us have with the new Recipe View requirements.

Since I get so much of my traffic from Google search, I sort of have to go along with what they are doing, even though it's a huge bother and time sink.

The thing that bothers me about the new recipe search is this. Great cooking is an art and a skill. This distilling of our recipes into a pre-set format is essentially forcing us to "paint by numbers".

For years I've thought that bloggers had actually an advantage in search results, an advantage perhaps that outweighed the true quality of our content because the search results favor inbound links, and we bloggers tend to link to each other. Now the tide has turned and Google has tipped the advantage to the big sites, the ones with the formulaic inputs for their recipes. In my opinion, they're rewarding the numbers at the expense of the art.

Now that said, have you seen Bing or Yahoo lately? Try doing a recipe search in Bing. At the very top of the results are image results only from a few large companies, one of which is owned by Microsoft! Talk about a conflict of interest. Or Yahoo? In their recipe search, they even call out the big sites with buttons, so you can search Allrecipes or Epicurious directly from Yahoo search.

At least Google is a little bit more fair. Anyone can participate in recipe view if they take the time to code their recipes (or find a plugin that works). As more blogs code their recipes, more blogs will show up in the results.

Anyway, thanks again for this great article Lydia!

Nobody wants to be Ethel 7 pts

I heard that Google was going to re-vamp the search engine piece of their website. Probably for the reasons you pointed out above. Many Google people have left to Facebook and FB has become a bigger search engine than Google. I never look for recipes on Google I go to more sophisticated websites that you have mentioned.

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fdtotten 5 pts

As an average joe who likes to google for recipes from time to time. The GRS seemed to be a cool and nifty to someone as uninformed as I am about food blogging. Most of the time, I do not know what I really want or want terms to search for. Thanks for the insights.

Having said that, I would encourage you and food bloggers, if you have not done so already, to send your constructive criticism as well as what you would like to see to the Google GRS product team.

Perhaps there is potential to tweak and configure to make it process better in a more relevant way. The foodie niche may be intense and creative, but as you stated, it is a huge informational universe. I would speculate that many individual will be satisfied with a simple easy to use tool like GRS - and not even know what is missing. Combining a directory with natural language search with results is still an evolving technical art.

The issue of quality & original search content will always be challenging for Google to provide on a daily basis. But the direct involvement of food bloggers to the GRS product team may improve it, although most likely not to everyone's complete satisfaction.

nessnix 5 pts

I prefer to use Google (regular) and exploring Wordpress' new FoodPress to Google Recipes. If those that use a more natural (and usually more delicious) approach to cooking are penalized in Google recipes, for their inexact ranges then I think those of us that read, write and enjoy food blogs should send a strong message to Google by refusing to participate. Forcing all of us to change the very things we love about cooking and food (the spontaneity, creativity and the joy of sharing long passed down recipes) to fit their semantics is ridiculous.

Thanks for pointing this out.

racheltayse 5 pts

There's a wordpress plug in, Recipe SEO, that adds the appropriate rich text tags. I tried it with mixed results. The google checker says it is formatted correctly. However, I don't see my recipe in the recipes search and the formatting isn't very pretty on my website.

Ultimately home chefs will lose out if they use google recipes and miss the unique perspectives of food bloggers.

Writing from my Urban Homestead in Columbus Ohio

http://www.houndsinthekitchen.com

Lydia 5 pts

Barbara, I know the issue has been raised with Typepad (not by me, though I'm happy to pile on), in one of their help forums. From the response, it didn't seem Typepad has any immediate plans to create a template for us.

But let's keep asking!

Lydia
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Lydia 5 pts

Jenna, although this post looks at Google Recipe Search from the blogger's point of view, I believe that recipe seekers will be much better served by skipping GRS and using either regular Google search or Food Blog Search. That's where you'll find the greatest variety of recipes.

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Barbara Harris 5 pts

I'm really pleased to see someone address this Lydia. I did the same test on my most popular recipe last week with the same results.I am not snippet savvy. As a Typepad user I'm hoping they come up with a widget for this.

JennaHatfield 24 pts

I'm not a food blogger (though I post an occasional fire-related recipe), so I thank you for your time to write this out and share it with us. I am a connoisseur of food blogs and I regularly use them in my menu planning. I will be avoiding Google Recipe Search now.

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Lydia 5 pts

I think one really important point that many of you have raised, and was my experience as well, is that this recipe search not only points out how much content theft there is, by showing us who has stolen our content, but the recipe search actually *rewards* content theft by ranking it above the original posts on our blogs! That seems preposterous to me.

Thanks to all for your thoughtful comments. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't love this search.

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Deep South Dish 5 pts

I don't love it either, in fact, I hate it!! I'm hoping that people are mostly using their browser search boxes & won't even notice it to be honest. Like you and Gina, none of my stuff shows up in recipe search, but what it has done is to lead me to some of my work that has been stolen and is being posted on other sites - sites that interestingly enough, DO show up in recipe search GRRRRRRR.

Fantastic post BTW!!

Cookin Canuck 5 pts

This is an excellent post, Lydia. Going through and re-coding my recipes, along with all the work that already goes along with writing a blog, is completely overwhelming. It is clear that readers will be missing some of the best content and recipes out there is they are using the new recipe search.

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Just One Donna 5 pts

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Great post, Lydia. I was unaware of the Recipe View and the new challenge it presents. Thanks so much for this informative post.

Kevin D Weeks 5 pts

I'm with you Lydia. It's going to hurt bloggers without helping readers.

Katerina 5 pts

Great post.

I actually took the time to recode a few of my more popular posts ("chana masala recipe") to rich snippet format. I have tested it with the tool and it works properly. That was three weeks ago and I am still not showing up anywhere in the google recipe view.

I think the snippets may be useful, only if that it gives me the ability to format and organize my content may be beneficial to me.

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