White bias in the land of colors
by snigdhasen

Last week, BlogHer CE Lanaid's post raised the issue of racial biases among ethnic minorities in America: A former  professor of Indian-origin, who was unhappy that his son (then 19 years old with no college degree) had married an African-American woman, allegedly ordered his daughter-in-law to be killed. Lanaid's post has details about the case, so I'll skip those.

What I'll attempt to do here is look at the role that race and skin color play in India (and, I am guessing, in a large part of the sub-continent).

You will find this post chock-a-block with likely's, probably's and maybe's. That's because I'm just beginning to dig deeper. Ideas and experiences are more than welcome.

Before I tread that dreaded path, a quick note about the Sparkle Rai case: This is a murder. No matter how racially, ethnically or culturally we try to define it, it is still a murder and there is no excuse for it. Contrary to some of the comments I have read on related blogs, this will be considered and prosecuted as a murder in India as well. If he did "get away" with it in India, it would be more due to bad policing than any cultural or legal sanction. However, what he may have gotten away with is his belief that his son was marrying the "wrong girl" and that he had to try hard to "fix the problem".

To discuss this fairly, it is absolutely essential that we decouple this case and how race plays out in America, from India's cultural and color biases. They are different. It's complicated, I know, but that's the only way it can be understood. There's never a single all-encompassing answer to any question about India.

Indians and race: What race do Indians belong to? I haven't the foggiest idea. There have been several theories about our racial roots, none too conclusive. Given the influx of foreign settlers over thousands of years, and the range of skin tones but roughly similar features that we share, we are probably a mash-up of several races. 

Blogger Nita made an attempt to understand the complexities of India's racial origins. Her post led me to an Indian government policy not to track race:

 

Pursuant of the policy of the Govt. Of India to discourage community distinction based on Caste, the 1951 Census marked a complete departure from the traditional recording of Race, Tribe or Caste and the only relevant question on caste or tribe incorporated in the Census Schedule was to enquire if the person enumerated was a member of any 'Scheduled Caste', or any 'Scheduled Tribe' or any other 'Backward class' or if he was an 'Anglo Indian'.

In 1961 and 1971 Censuses the information was collected only for each Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe.

So, Indians, by definition, don't view each other by race the way it is understood in America. But we do differentiate (and discriminate) by region (most often characterized by different languages), caste, religion and class.
As a British colony, India did have its share of a brand of racism. But the British were sent packing, so who are we fighting over? Our own prejudices that we don't believe qualify as "racism".

How do we feel about other more clearly-defined races like Black or White? Mostly, we associate them with their economic, social and historical status: Whites are perceived as educated, smart, successful and well-off; Blacks as predominantly poor, uneducated and hence subjugated.

Also, India's last rulers were white, who held Indians as beneath them. So, it's likely that we think we are equally good and will one day prove to be their equals, but that doesn't necessarily make us compassionate towards other races. Or perhaps, this "insensitivity" or "prejudice" stems from ignorance: In the recent past Indians have had no direct experience of living with people of African origin. They were not in India, but the Europeans were, as was their worldview.

Again, the demarcations are not exact, but these perceptions are likely to play out in a marriage.

India and skin color: Yes, quite a few people in India -- the land of colors where white signifies death and mourning for many --- have a fetish for lighter skin tone. I can't put my finger on where or how this skewed sense of beauty originated. In Hindu pantheon, some of the most powerful and favorite avatars  -- Krishna, Vishnu, Draupadi -- are specifically described as dark-skinned and good-looking. Indians come in a range of shades from almost white/green-eyed to near-black.

But the prejudice exists in every strata of society, and since women bear most of the burden of looking good, they bear the brunt of the prejudice as well.
 
The word used to describe the lighter tone is "fair". Men and women seeking partners through matrimonial services almost always want a "fair" bride, or advertise that the girl is "fair". The entertainment and advertising industry has a disproportionate number of light-skinned women (and men). And now, Caucasian men and women are moving in to meet this demand and fascination. (Fair Skin Sells).

An ongoing raucous
over a highly-popular skin-lightening product has highlighted this bias more than ever.

My mother -- who is the (comparitively) lighter-skinned member in her south Indian family -- would joke about how women were viewed by their skin color in eastern India, my dad's home: 'You can look like the back of a bus, but as long as you are fair and chubby, you are beautiful'. Over the years, she too, like so many others, started referring to people's skin tone (especially in the context of a marriage) in a matter-of-fact manner.

I remained unaffected by these standards, thanks to the same mother (and father) who raised me to ignore the exterior and focus on an education and personal growth. Since this idea -- that beauty and light skin are synonymous -- held little significance for me, it became clear to me as I moved out of town and then India, that this aesthetic preference had more to do with conditioning than reality. It is a notion: We are probably attributing some social hierarchy to the color of the skin.

So, for Indians (and most likely for the subcontinent's population), race and color are not synonymous. How else do you explain this case of another South Asian-origin man from Georgia who is facing charges of killing his own daughter for wanting out of an arranged marriage? Incidentally, he is married to an African-American woman himself, so color isn't the issue.

But the color bias persists, nevertheless. Some say our preoccupation with the white skin is a colonial hangover. Maybe. Then why did we want our "white masters" gone? More importantly, why do we hold on dearly to our traditions if we consider the white race as superior?

Sangu Subramani, an upper-caste, dark-skinned man from a south Indian state, blogs about this bias through his life's experiences. I wish I could quote the entire post here -- I couldn't have explained this better myself. But here's a gem from it:

[...] I had frequently noticed even earlier how people in Chennai [...]placed a premium on white skin. In Chennai at least, it was mostly mentioned in the context of girls, although I suspected a similar bias existed even in the case of boys. [...] It was not as if people would say "Wow! You look beautiful! You are so white!". It was much more subtle and somewhat unspoken. Whenever they saw a fair girl, the eyebrows of men would arch up faintly and their eyes would shine with a strange light. It was easy to miss but nevertheless noticeable. Women reacted differently. Outwardly they appeared unaffected. But inside, you could sense a feeling of grudging respect. When the fair girl left them, comments of admiration would invariably followed. If it was a dark girl, there would be little or no reaction at all. People would at most assume that the girl was average in all aspects of life. ie. Nothing special. Life could be hard if you are a dark skinned Indian lass.

 
This post reminded me of a recent Tyra Banks show about skin color prejudices among African-Americans themselves. [I couldn't find a video of that episode, but Siditty blogs about it here.].

The one event where all these prejudices and preferences come to the surface is marriage -- the final frontier of parental control.

Indian marriages in America:  I grew up believing Indian-Americans in the U.S. didn't have arranged marriages (forced or assisted), couldn't arrange their children's marriages, simply because it was alien to American culture. I had a similar idea about Indians living in other Western nations.
I was in for a HUGE surprise when I arrived here. Not only is the practice alive, in some cases it is a reflection of what's happening back in India and not what's happening in America. Sometimes, it appears to me, people cling on to what they left behind when they left the subcontinent.

Quoting from an NYT story on marriages in the South Asian community here:

In large part, Ms. Khandelwal said, the transition from formally arranged marriage reflects social changes in India itself, where assisted marriage is now common among the educated, urban middle class.
[...]
"The purpose of assisted marriage here is not simply to preserve Indian
cultural identity, but more pointedly to maintain class, religious and
regional identities in a place where they might easily be diffused,
those who have studied the Indian diaspora say.
[...]
Arranged and assisted marriage have left Indians with the lowest rate
of intermarriage of any major immigrant group in the United States.
Among South Asian men and women here in their 20's and 30's, the vast
majority of whom are foreign born, fewer than 10 percent marry outside
their ethnic group, according to an analysis of the Census Bureau's
2003 American Community Survey conducted for this article.

Why? Is it fear of loss of a deep-rooted, ancient culture? Or is it to establish identity? Maybe both. I only recently realized -- having heard a first-hand account of how NOT passing on one's cultural roots can also adversely affect American-born (brown) children -- that a lack of cultural grounding can lead to an identity crisis.
As I had mentioned in an earlier series on arranged marriages, the practical reason is ease: similar cultural background, same language and religion make adjusting to each other and their families much easier.
I guess we are trapped in a mindset that is a culmination of many factors, which we now conveniently pass off "tradition". 

Which brings me back to Sparkle Rai's murder case. Let's take the murder out of this discussion for simplicity's sake. Would Chiman Rai's disagreement with his son's decision then be racially-motivated? Is it?

I can't read his mind, I don't know.

But I can see how an Indian parent -- who is himself/herself educated as are all of his other children -- can get worked-up about a teenage son with no degree and a non-Indian wife. Would his unhappiness be any less if Sparkle Rai had white skin, everything else being equal? I doubt it.

What irks me, however, is he made Sparkle Rai pay for what he perceives as his son's "failings". This is the oh-so-familiar attitude that our boys are never wrong and are precious. It's always the girl's fault, no matter what.

Which is exactly what Sepia Mutiny argues: 

The son is the one who has dishonored the family here, right? So what does the father do? Disinherit him? Kill his son? Nope - he hires hitmen to kill his daughter-in-law. [...] No matter who does something “wrong” (the son, the daughter) nor what that “wrong” thing is (getting married, getting divorced), the answer is always the same: if you want to preserve the family’s honor, kill the bride and regain your “izzat.” Bride-killing, on the other hand, well that’s not shameful at all.

As one of the mutineers pointed out in a comment:

If Mr.Rai had a daughter that he had married a black man, that I bet he would have killed her, but since it was the other way around. The son is more popular then the daughter among many people with the same background with me.

The eternal optimist that I am, I'd like to conclude with a pat on the backs of the millions of Indians across the world who recognize deep-rooted prejudices as a problem and want them gone. The fact that so many of us are writing and discussing this tells me there's much more than a flicker of hope.
And to all those Indian-Americans who have willingly blessed their children who chose to marry out of race, caste, religion, and region, thank you, and more power to you.

More on color bias in India:

Racism Not Always Black and White (ABC)
Fair Factor --"The Whiter the Better" (Star, 2006)
In All Fairness (The Times of India, 2002)
All's Not Fair For The Dark-Skinned (The Tribune, 2001)

Comments

 

Interesting...

I still don't understand the idea of killing ANYONE because the family has been "dishonored,"  but that isn't in my cultural make-up. 

You did a good job of sorting through a very convuluted issue. As an outsider, it's easy for me to say..."oh, this guy is a racist!" but then again, I do not know how Indian society works out. 

As an aside...I wonder how East Indians feel about their West Indian counterparts.  I am married to a West Indian (Jamaican) & have W.Indian roots myself, and it seems that the relationship of East Indians in the Caribbean is slightly different. Sure, cultural traditions remain, but are they more accepting of difference? 

 

 

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Are they?

Thanks, Prisoner's Wife :) 

It's a great question you raise about Indians in the Caribbeans. I don't know, do you?

What does your husband say about the relationship between the two groups? My guess is that when it comes to marriage, Indians there would like to stick to their communities, right?

But I am just guessing. Plese enlighten us :)

SS

 

 

Not Sure

I will have to ask. You're probably right in terms of marriage, but i'll ask to make sure. He's from Jamaica, where the Indian population isn't as large as on other islands such as Trinidad or Grenada.

 

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As always, Snigdha

What a brilliant job you've done of sorting through and guiding us comprehensively through such complex issues. I appreciate better understanding issues of race, color, ethnicity in other cultures and how they interact with American culture.

Thank you.

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Thanks Maria :)

Thank you, Maria. I'm glad the post was of some use. I recall you mentioning once that your dad was West Indian, right? I wonder if he ever told you about how Indians there interacted with the local population.

That would be interesting information.

SS 

 

I'll have to ask

Interesting question, Snigdha! I'll have to ask him - it's not something we've ever talked much about.

I do know though that his understanding of race and on that side of my family is different from my mother's descended-from-slaves, African American side.

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I am not surprised at all!

I was not surprised to read about the murder, Snigdha. Some Indians still have a backward, mediæval, feudal mindset that any amount of education will not remove. Nor will it go away if they go to a different country. They would still carry with them the worst of India wherever they go. Some Indians defend and support the most despicable, inhuman practices like casteism, sati, dowry, discrimination against women, etc. in the name of "culture". Shame on such a "culture"! There is no hope for such a "culture" because it does not have a self-correcting tendency. Anything that does not correct itself deserves to perish completely!

I guess the daughter-in-law was murdered because the son dared to defy the wishes of his father and marry outside the caste and religion (and in this case, race and origin as well). I have heard that some Indian-Americans are even more casteist than most Indians and don't allow their children to marry someone outside their own caste or religion or region. If Mr. Rai had a daughter who married an African-American man, the son-in-law would have been killed, I am sure. The case of Rizwanur Rehman comes to mind. In some backward pockets in India, both the guy and the girl would be killed for marrying outside the caste.

The good thing is that things are changing in India, atleast among the urban, educated youth. I am both happy and proud to say that I do not know what caste my friends (in school and college) and colleagues belong to, though one can know their religion from their names (I don't know about other states, but it is not possible to find out the caste of a person from his/her name in Tamil Nadu!) I give a damn about things like caste and religion!

Those stupid "fairness creams" have a big market in India. And companies come out with "fairness creams" that target men! I have read that Kashmiri men have taken a liking to those stupid "fairness creams". And Kashmiris, in general, are the "fairest" people in India.

 

Well said Raj

Raj, I completely agree that a culture that cannot correct itself and evolve is best dead. But I think that has actually been India's plus point -- we have been by-and-large flexible, and have assimilated so many different cultures over the years.

The problem is with those who refuse to see the need to change.

"(I don't know about other states, but it is not possible to find out the caste of a person from his/her name in Tamil Nadu!)" ---

Are you sure about that? I know some people have started dropping their caste-revealing last names (in some northern states as well, where caste is a big factor), but I know plenty from south (including TN) who continue to use it. In my experience, southerners in general are more conservative, especially about their caste: "To Let: Brahmins Only".

TN and AP politics are also heavily caste-based, no?

Growing up in Bengal, I have barely ever experienced this in everyday life.

Your ideas, though, are indeed hard to come by and refreshing. Keep up the spirit!

 

 

Things are changing!

Snigdha, unlike some other states, where surnames may or may not reveal the caste, Tamil surnames were just the names of the castes/sub-castes, though a very few may have also reflected the place where the person hailed from. When Tamils dropped their surnames completely, it became impossible to identify the person's caste from his/her name as the full name consists of just the first name of the person and the first name of his/her father or the first name of the husband in the case of many married women. (Now ofcourse, the law has been modified to allow the mother's first name or initial(s) to be used instead of those of the father.)

Actually, the Tamil naming system (as well as that of some Malayalees) is very, very similar to that of the Icelanders. The Icelanders just have a first name and add their father's first name (sometimes the mother's first name) along with a suffix son or dottir.

Icelandic names - wikipedia

This is a very unique system when the rest of the world uses surnames or family names. Some Tamils of earlier generations (especially those living in other states/countries) may continue to use surnames because it is easier to fill up forms where surnames are required. But most people of my parents' generation and almost everyone in my generation don't use surnames at all!

However, I will not claim that casteism is dead in Tamil Nadu. Unfortunately, it still exists in rural areas and in a few backward villages, despicable forms of casteist discrimination like the shameful two-tumbler system still exist, though it is banned by law and the administration and police are supposed to root out such nonsense wherever they find it. Things like letting out houses only for members of one's caste or religion are definitely on the wane, though one may still find classified ads in newspapers that state "vegetarians only".

The politics of AP and Karnataka may be caste based to a large extent, but in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, it is mainly development based politics! That is why, in both states, governments keep changing after every election without exception. Ofcourse, there may be a few small casteist parties, but I am sure the people of TN and Kerala will not allow them to move to the centre-stage.

Raj

 

Snigdha, as you said its a

Snigdha, as you said its a complicated subject and I have a draft post on this!

Overall though people tend to think of colour as an attribute of beauty.

And also, honor killings are carried out in some feudal families but more because marriages are out of caste and creed, not because of colour. In fact marrying outside caste and religion gets people's hackles up, and some criminal minded people kill. but there is trouble even without this.

There was a well publicised case of a famous industrialist whose son committed suicide because his parents could not accept his marriage to a white girl. Happened in London. 

Thanks for the link 

Nita

 

Post it!

Nita, convert that draft into a post! Would LOVE to read your ideas, analysis and experiences. It can only help further the discussion.

I think it's high time we wrote and discussed this issue more seriously. I saw this new Ponds White Beauty ad (for a pinkish-white glow). I understand it may be too early to judge how the ad will finally end, but who are they selling the "pinkish white glow" to? How can a brown person ever look pinkish-white?

Seriously...

 

 

Waiting...

Maria, Prisoner's Wife,

Do enlighten us :)

 

 

I know what you mean

I'm an Indian woman and I've seen so many matrimonial ads that refer to color that I've become immune to them- I don't even bat an eyelid- same goes for the ads on TV. It's sad, really. There's too much hypocrisy in this country and this love for the 'fair' color is just another example. I've written a sarcastically funny post on the same topic- do check it out!

http://www.blogher.com/matrimonial-ad 

Mia :)

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