Why I don't like Shop To Earn and similar MLM programs
by sequence

Online shopping multi-level marketing companies (MLMs) aren’t new.
My Power Mall (MPM) has been around for a while, Team National has been
in the mix too, and now Shop to Earn has popped up and is being aggressively marketed by its members.

My bottom line on all of these companies: Don’t waste your time or money.
You can find better deals on your purchases outside their systems. And
the systems are really nothing more than typical MLM recruiting
schemes. Shopping is not the objective, recruiting is. Let me explain
these programs to you…

The guy who started the ShopToEarn, Patrick Welsh, supposedly spent
10 years planning it. Any business professional worth their salt knows
there’s something desperately wrong with spending ten years setting up
a company, but who are we to judge? Here’s what the site says:

Pat has spent the last 10 years creating and developing
this ShopToEarn platform that couples networking and e-commerce. By
forming partnerships with the biggest names in retail while seeking out
positive partnerships with the finest green companies, our mission of
helping people become healthier and wealthier is being realized by many.

The concept of this program seems simple enough: Get money back on
items you’re already going to shop for. Except there are already
programs out there that offer this, and there’s no fee to sign up. For
example, a site called Jellyfish rebates part of every purchase you make through the site. No fees. No catches. No recruiting.

What does it cost you to become a part of ShopToEarn? To
become a “website owner” it’s $349, or to become just a “business
builder” it’s $99. To become a “broker” which is a website owner and
business builder, it’s $448. There is also an annual
renewal fee that is charged, which is $69 for a website owner or
business builder, or $119 for a broker.

How does ShopToEarn work? Basically the site is a huge collection of affiliate links owned
by Shop to Earn. When you want to buy something, you click on an icon,
which takes you to the particular retailer’s site. Shop to Earn is paid
a commission each time you shop using those links to the retailers, and
you are given part of that money.

You can see that all the icons are affiliate links just by holding
your mouse over them and looking at the URL you’re going to be clicking
on:

  • click.linksynergy.com.*****
  • www.jdoqocy.com/********
  • tkqlhce.com/******

Most of these affiliate links offer payments in the range of 1% to
10% of purchases, with the most typical payments being 2% to 4%. The
company says you can make up to 30% back, but those payouts don’t occur often. Sometimes bonuses or volume incentives are offered by the retailers.

But under the best case scenario, the “owner” of a ShoptoEarn store
could get a little more than half of that affiliate money. And that’s
only if you max out every possible commission and bonus, and meet the
rules of the complicated commission pay plan. I bet your actual payout
will be much less if you’re like about 90% of the people involved.

Who will make money from ShopToEarn? How many
people do you suppose will even make their initial investment back from
shopping? Even if you were to make 5% back on your purchases, you’d
have to purchase $9,000 of merchandise to even earn back your initial
investment of $450. And I’m not even convinced that most people are
even making an average of 5%.

Those figures demonstrate that without recruiting new people into
the company, the average consumer is probably unlikely to make their
initial investment back.

Could you do this without Shop To Earn? Absolutely. You could earn affiliate money with almost all of the retailers featured on their site, and you would keep all the money. You could do this on your own, and for only the cost of web hosting.

These affiliate links aren’t hard to get. All you need is a website.
You sign up with LinkShare or CommissionJunction or Performics (now
ConnectCommerce via Google), and voila… you have access to the exact
same retailers. I have accounts with all these companies, and therefore
have access to the exact same retailers that ShoptoEarn does. Except I
get to keep all the money. (Hmmmmm… wanna sign up with me? I’ll only
charge you $350… Just kidding!)

Is it about shopping or recruiting? The truth with
this company, like all other MLMs out there, is that the purpose is not
really to get you to shop online. It’s not about the product or service
they pretend to sell.

The purpose (in my opinion) is to continuously recruit new marks into the scheme.
They’re each paying about $450 to sign up for the opportunity to
receive money back when they shop online. And you’re going to get a
piece of that when you sponsor people into the scheme.

The actual money to be made from shopping is very little. The
affiliate payments aren’t huge, so it only stands to reason that the
portion of the affiliate money paid to members is even smaller. Unless
you recruit a bunch of people in, you will probably never make much.

The die hard MLM fans will say, “Of course you have to work hard and recruit. It’s a business. Go out there and sell it!”

Except who wants to sell a recruiting scheme,
disguised as an online shopping mall? Do you want to lie to your
potential recruits each time you tell them it’s all about shopping from
their own store? It’s not about shopping, in my opinion. It’s about
recruiting. Every MLM is not about the product or service. It’s really
about recruiting new marks to the scheme.

Is it a pyramid scheme? People pay a fee to become
a member of the scheme, hoping that they can recoup their money by
recruiting more members who also pay fees to join the scheme. When you
recruit a downline, the structure sure looks like a pyramid to me.

This recruiting goes on continuously, and the bottom of the pyramid
is ever-expanding. The people at the bottom can only hope that they can
find enough new marks to recoup their original investment. Check out this graphic from the company itself, and see if you think it looks like a pyramid or not.

Now the company and its representatives will tell you that they’re
not a pyramid scheme, and that pyramid schemes are illegal. Pyramid
schemes are illegal. And MLM companies like Shop to Earn use the guise of a product or service
to make it appear that they’re legitimate. After all, a pure pyramid
scheme just exchanges money. If an MLM injects a product or service
into the mix (no matter how undesirable or worthless that product),
they have just legitimized their operation.

Is this a new idea? The idea of buying items “from
yourself” and getting a piece of the action is not new. This has been
one of the main principles in Amway (Quixtar) forever. Go to any
indoctrinated Amway person’s house, and you’ll see all of their
products being used in the kitchen and basement and bathrooms.

And they’ll tell you, “I’m going to use cleaning products anyway, so
I might as well buy them from myself and make some money along the
way.” Why add to the profits of Wal-Mart, when you can profit for
yourself?

Except it’s really no bargain to shop from yourself if you don’t
have a chance to find the absolute best price on the internet. If
you’re limited to a finite number of retailers, you’re probably paying
more for your items than you really need to. So where’s the profit if
you’re overpaying or not getting the specific brands or items you’d
prefer?

Isn’t this an inexpensive way to be able to start my own business? Ummmm,
no. You don’t really own a business when you sign up with ShoptoEarn.
Heck, you don’t own anything with them, other than your login and
password. You can build a downline, but you don’t own them either. The
company really owns them, and you operate as long as they allow you to.
When the company goes away, so does your “business.”

Don’t I earn commissions from purchases by my downline? Yes,
you can get commissions and bonuses, but as with any MLM, there are
lots of catches and confusing details to the pay plan. As with all
MLMs, you must “qualify” to get commissions. You don’t just get them
automatically when someone you recruited buys something. You initially
need 3 recruits to purchase the website owner option and generate $100
of “monthly volume” to even qualify to get a commission.

Then there are the complicated bonuses that you could get depending on your number of recruits and and their purchases. Check out these two illustrations of the commission structure here and here.

But I know someone who made $10,000 last month with STE!!! Yes,
claims of huge earnings with MLM companies are normal. That’s how they
entice you into the scheme. Sometimes these earnings are real. But the
people getting the big checks are far less than 1% of all the people
involved in the scheme, and that check has been generated based upon
massive recruiting of new marks.

Your chances of making that much money are slim to none. And the
claims that all you have to do is work hard and you’ll make that much
money too? Hogwash.

There are millions of Americans who have invested significant time and money into MLM ventures and have lost money because of them.
Your odds of success in an MLM are extremely low, and unlike real
businesses, your hard work isn’t a good predictor of how much money
you’ll make.

MLM recruiters tell you those people failed because they were lazy,
didn’t want to work hard, didn’t really want to make any money, or just
wanted a get-rich-quick scheme. Those are nice phrases to explain away
the high failure rates in multi-level marketing schemes, but they’re
just not true. The truth is that the structure of MLMs ensures that the
vast majority of people will fail to turn a profit.

What other problems are inherent with ShopToEarn?
The prices of the products through these online shopping malls are said
to be higher than with other retailers. I don’t know how true this is,
but I do know that you’re limited in what retailers you can buy from.
It’s not like ShoptoEarn is a free-for-all and you get money no matter
where you shop.

There are only certain stores (a lot of them, yes) but not every
major store. And remember that the retailers themselves have to make
money and might be pricing items a bit higher to cover this affiliate
commission that they pay.

Another problem I see is that membership in a program might
encourage people to buy things they otherwise wouldn’t. Oh, I know it’s
all about self-control and stuff. I’m just saying that you might be
tempted to spend more than you otherwise would because it seems like a
good deal.

And as always, shipping charges can be a problem when shopping
online. It’s important to factor that into the purchase. There are
plenty of times when the shipping charges more than cancel out your
commission on the purchase, so it’s not worth it.

What about the other companies that offer these shopping programs?
MyPowerMall initially looks like a better option than ShoptoEarn
because there is no sign-up fee. However, there is a catch, of course.
You must buy at least one thing a month to keep your store with
MyPowerMall.They cleverly call this program “One Thing.” If you don’t
make a purchase during a month, you lose your store. (Well, the owner
of the company gets your store and anyone who thought they were
shopping with you is now shopping with her!)

Team National uses a similar concept as Shop To Earn and My Power
Mall, but it is much more expensive to sign up. Depending on who you
believe, the TN membership costs between $795 and $2,195. They call
what you’re “buying” a “benefits package.” Apparently jewelry and
insurance are some of the more prominent offerings of TeamNational, but
there are other things available as well.

It’s going to take a lot of recruiting and buying to earn your money
back with Team National. And as with the other shopping sites,
consumers often find that they can get better deals elsewhere on their
purchases, so they’d actually be losing money if they bought via
TeamNational.

What’s the bottom line? In my opinion, ShopToEarn,
MyPowerMall, and TeamNational are a waste of time and money. You’re not
really building a business with them, you’re just participating in a
grand scheme to recruit as many new victims as possible. The amount of
money you’ll save by shopping through these sites is questionable at
best, and in many cases, I think you’ll actually lose money. Avoid
these companies like the plague.

Submitted by sequence (view blog) on Tue, 07/15/2008 - 21:37

Comments

 

Way too negative

This post is holey pessimistic and it reminded me that there are two types of
people.  People who make money and don't complain, and people who don't
make money and complain about how much money others are making.


Notice that those making money in STE are not
writing blogs (except me) because they are too busy making money,
saving on
shopping online, and helping others make money.  I figured I would
break that trend and post a comment here.  Let me just touch on a few
key points.

Is STE simply affiliate linking?

  • Absolutely! But thanks the Shop To Earn, I don't have to spend
    money to set up a business, purchase a domain, host a website, and
    build a multitude of pages just use my own affiliate links.  That
    effort costs well over $448.  To hire a professional web developer would
    cost over $4000.00.  If I had the skills to do this myself, it would
    take over a month to do which includes getting the over 600 affiliate
    links together and working. BTW - when the links are not used, the
    affiliate companies pull them from your account so they will no longer
    work on your site.

Can you earn money just by shopping?

  • Absolutely NOT! In no world can you shop and make money.  But you
    can change your shopping habits, purchase more online, price compare,
    and save a lot with Shop To Earn. However, the earning comes in doing
    marketing for the company.  They don't advertise on the radio,
    television, or even Google.  They"eat their own lunch."  Just as in
    their affiliate relationships, they receive funds for advertising from
    retailers after purchases are made, they pay commissions to members
    after a new member joins.  That's why it is called network marketing. 
    Insurance Companies, Mortgage Companies, real estate agents, Mutual
    Funds, investment banks, manufacturing companies, general contracters etc. etc. etc.
    follow this exact same marketing model.  I don't see a multitude of
    blogs bashing them.

Is the commission structure complicated?

  • Only to someone who has not earned any money with Shop To Earn. 
    When you start to generate commissions and bonuses, everything is shown
    very clearly in your back office.  With any of these systems (and that
    is all they are... "systems") you should learn the details before you
    sign on.  All of the commissions rules for Shop To Earn fit one short
    web page.  Then they provide examples for clarification.  Usually,
    people don't get it because they only read 10% of the information and
    assume the rest.  When their assumptions are wrong, they throw their
    hands up and call it "too complicated."

Why did I join?

  • I joined because Shop To Earn, unlike many others is clear cut,
    pays well, and provides savings on products with mass appeal from
    retailers with mass appeal.  I am able to find everything I need for my
    home through Shop To Earn and do the price comparison I need to do from
    the convenience of my home anytime I want to.  Here is my
    example... I buy my LG washing machine and dryer online at sears with
    7%
    (that is on top of their 10% online discount).  I get $145 about back. 
    I sign up 2 people.  That is $200.  I have only $103 left to go to
    "break even".  In one year, I can get that back in savings alone. 
    Especially because I do my Christmas shopping online. 

Is Shop To earn a Pyramid Scheme?

  • Did you realize that your company is a pyramid?  There is a CEO
    who makes 100 times more than you, then his executive staff, then thier
    management staff... so on and so forth.  There will always be kings and
    there will always be peasants.  There will always be employers and
    there will always be employees.  And there will always be those who
    seize a great opportunity and those who watch others succeed and
    criticize. The people who criticize MLM's as Pyramid Schemes are
    usually at the bottom in their jobs.  They just don't see the  pyramid
    there because they are looking up from the bottom and only see the flat
    base.  Or they tried a bad one and became jaded by the experience and have written them all off.  

The fact of the matter is that not everybody succeeds in MLM's.  Just
as in life, very few do exceptionally well (that is why they are
labeled as exceptional) and most others perform at an average or below
average level.  Look at your job.  There is a rising star there I am
sure.  If he is at your level now, he won't be there long. But everybody has the same opportuniy in Shop To Earn.  No politics, no BS.

It's unfortunate that people write like they know what they are
talking about, then people read it and believe it.  I have picked Shop
To Earn apart from the inside out and I know a few things more than
this author.  It works, it pays, and many many people are doing well. 
It is not a winfall.  Effort is required.  But when you do it, it
works.  Save on shopping.  Earn through referrals.  Simple.

Submitted by ste_works on Sun, 08/10/2008 - 20:28
 

My Real Savings with Shop To Earn

  • Sears (7%) - Washer Dryer $145
  • Drugstore.com (10%) - General Toiletries free shipping - $9.00
  • Shoes.com (18%) - pair mark echo shoes + 2 pair of shoes free shipping and $20.00 off coupon code - $18.00
  • Macy's (10%) - birthday present - $10.00
  • Itunes (5%) - two albums - $1.00

Total savings - $203.00

I have been in Shop To Earn 3 weeks.  This just shows that if you actually shop on line, Shop To Earn works and you can save.

 

Submitted by ste_works on Sun, 08/10/2008 - 22:39
 

Shop To Earn

I totally disagree with the negative assessment written about Shop To Earn by the lady in the photograph. Clearly, before writing the article she should have spoken to some people that are actually members. I joined 3 weeks ago and signed up 5 people in 4 days with NO problem at all. These are highly intelligent people, most own or have owned successful businesses, and recognize a great business opportunity when they hear about it. I have since signed up another 5 members and my check is currently over $2700.00. It is the easiest money I have ever made. This concept, unike so many other MLM, is a NO BRAINER. With the price of gas, more people have begun shopping online, and it is only going to continue. Currently, there has been over $185,000,000,000.00 spent on online shoppig, with a future projection of over $300,000,000,000.00. Yes...BILLION!!

 

I have been approached many times over the years, to join MLM programs (Mona Vie, Arbonne, etc.) and declined the opportunity.  It was inconceivable to me that I had to spend my time trying to convince people to try "a" particular product (or type of products) that they may or may not continue to use, or even be interested in trying. Shop To Earn is totally different. it is based on a common sense concept of buying products that everyone uses anyway. And, yes, I would much rather sit at my computer in the comfort of my own home and shop, vs. getting into my car and driving to a store/mall, walking around to find what I need amidst everyone else, waiting in line to pay for it, bag it, load it into my car, and then drive home and unload it. On top of that...I may or may not have found anything discounted, and I absolutely will be paying tax!! On STE there are sights that offer free shipping if ordering as little as $25.00 and most of the time NO TAX!

 

I agree with Kirk (and about 16,000 others). This is a great opportunity to become involved in a venture with such a brilliant concept (and future), for such a small amount of money. There is nothing else I can think of that offers such an enormous opportunity to make thousands of dollars off of such a small "investment". As Donald Trump told Oprah's audience not too long ago when asked what he would do if he lost all of his money and had to start over, he said "I would be involved in MLM". When the audience booed him, he said "That's why you are sitting there and I am sitting here". He went on to say that people do not recognize the difference between Pyramids and MLM'. (These comments are posted on the Internet and were also posted in the Arbonne Representatives Catalogs a couple of months ago).

 

Just remember...no risk...no rewards.  And I would hardly call becoming a memeber of STE a risk. 

Sandy

Submitted by Sandy Metter on Mon, 08/11/2008 - 09:47
 

Thank You For Writing This - You Put In A Lot
of Work

First of all she did state that this is her opinion. Sequence also supported her opinion with facts that she directly experienced or researched.

That is not being negative. That is giving full context to her opinion and prior experiences. Just as some of you were very enthusiastic about your experiences with the company you don't get to knock her because she comes from a different place and perspective.

I'm a little concerned with the concept of running any business as a "No Brainier." It is damn hard work both on and off-line. And yes billions of dollars are being transacted every day but it does not mean that this company is going to get you any closer to those billions than taking the time and doing it yourself. Just my opinion.

There are companies that target folks who very much want to make money. There are also companies that are on the straight up and up.

If this company is legit as some of you believe then I would fully expect to see full disclosure on the website and a detail description of what is being transacted. What do you get for fee for services? What is in the contract?

Yes, I'm skeptical when it comes to my money and someone is trying to convince me to let go of it.

Gena - Out On The Stoop

Submitted by Gena Haskett on Mon, 08/11/2008 - 16:58
 

LOL

Tracy Coenen
FRAUDfiles Blog
Pink Truth

 

I'm not here to argue with people like you, so I'll keep my comments brief. It's amusing that your 3 days of membership in this scheme trumps the research and homework I've done on it. (Not that you even know how much research I've done!)

I think most people reading comments from ShopToEarn members are smart enough to see that they have a vested interest in promoting a favorable view of the company: THEY WANT TO RECRUIT YOU.

I have no vested interest in this. I investigate frauds and scams for a living. My blogging here and elsewhere gains me nothing monetarily or otherwise, but I do it because I want to warn consumers... Especially when it comes to programs like this which seem so harmless but are really just glorified pyramid schemes. Find a new way to dress up the pyramid, and voila, you have a bunch of new marks willing to fall for it.

In these MLMs and pyramid schemes, your outcome is almost never tied to the amount of work and effort you put forth. Millions of people have invested millions of hours and billions of dollars in these schemes, trying to make a bona fide business out of them. And they have nothing to show for it.

Please avoid schemes like this, for your own good, the good of your family, and the good of your bank account. 

Submitted by sequence on Sun, 08/24/2008 - 11:10
 

Wonderful Post, Sequence!

Contrary to the opinions expressed by the three STE defenders, who all appear to have joined BlogHer simply to respond to this post, Sequence made a very well-written and well-researched post and I agree with her 100%.

Anyone can sign up FOR FREE as an affiliate of these same merchants through affiliate networks like Commission Junction, Performics, and LinkShare and earn these same cashback rates by shopping through their own links... again, for free.  So, in essence, all you get for your money when you join a site like STE is the right to charge other people for something they could get for free, too.  Sadly, there's a sucker born every minute.  Those who brag of the paychecks (huge or otherwise) they earn from taking advantage of people's ignorance and financial desperation should be ashamed of themselves, IMHO.

Bravo, Sequence!

Submitted by reford on Sun, 08/24/2008 - 11:16
 

Thank you very much!

Tracy Coenen
FRAUDfiles Blog
Pink Truth

*curtsey* 

Submitted by sequence on Sun, 08/24/2008 - 11:33
 

Tracy's comment

Tracy,

 I think you have misjudged Shop to Earn. I got onto your site by accident and read your post about Shop to Earn. It does not seem to be a scam. The focus seems to be on shopping and referring. Many insurance brokers and mortgage brokers work off of referral business, as do doctors.

I am a car dealer specializing in low mileage cars under factory warranty so that the retail, consumer can buy with confidence. There are many, many, curbstoner's in this country that need to be investigated. Your investigative power could really be used in that arena.

Or, our banking system is under attack from unscrupulous mortgage brokerage houses who will charge a business owner $1500 for an appraisal and "pre-qualify" you for a loan at say 8%. When you go to closing the rate magically changes to 10% with increases within the first year of up to 16%.

My concern is that this site promotes affilate related cash back programs that pays someone on "clicks" generated. I would hope that there is no vested interest in those sites here. But, it does not seem that way. I would think that your ads on the right side of your web page would link to gov't agencies, etc, Not, shopping sites. 

Submitted by 123456 on Mon, 08/25/2008 - 08:45
 

MLM is not about sales - it's about marketing
to new members

I think the original article was written very well (even though it had a tone of somebody who had more than there share of friends wanting "just 30 minutes" of their time).  I was coerced into setting through my first MLM presentation over 30 years ago.  And I've sat through a few others over the years.  They all were slick, snazzy presentations with every possible objection covered.  They all promised to make me rich beyond my wildest dreams.  And all I had to do was recruit a large network of other people, just like me, who shared the same dream of having millions of dollars one day.

 However, I could not get rich by just buying and using the products, no matter how good of a bargain they were.  No, I HAD TO RECRUIT others into the flock to make REAL money.  And there you have it.  You have to recruit people (call them marks if you like, I just think they are people) to really make any money.  The real money is not in the product or the service, it is in building an organization.  If you like to build shell-like organizations, and don't care if you alienate most of your current friends, well...

And any of us could create our own affiliate linked site (and for a lot less than $450) and use it, update it and share the knowledge and wealth WITHOUT charging others for that service.  I run over a dozen web sites (most of them do not sell anything - informational and sharing) and I don't pay more than $12 a month for any of them.

From where I sit, it's a matter of choice.  I've seen people enter and leave the MLM world over the years.  And one person I know actually made over a million dollars at it.  But his life was consumed by the MLM organization.  He had no friends left outside of his "channels".  He had no life to speak of outside of his "partners".  And he died before he was 50.

When I look back over the past 20 years, I've earned several million dollars working in an old fashion, we provide the product and service it, kind of business.  It's not glamorous, but it floats my boat.  And I enjoy my life and my friends don't hide from me when they see me coming.  And I'm 52, so I've outlived the one MLM millionaire that I knew.

Submitted by TallFloridian on Thu, 08/28/2008 - 14:57
 

Now back to Shop to Earn

Now back to Shop to Earn...  Do you guys really think HUGE BILLION and TRILLION dollar companies would put there reputation on the line to be involved with Shop to Earn if they were fraudualnt?  Makes you wonder huh?I mean Disney is involved (Trillion Dollar Company) Wal-Mart (Billion Dollar Company).I have great news too.  Home Depot actually signed up as one of the now close to 600 other companies involved with Shop to Earn.

This is the company you want to be involved with.1. www.shoptoearn.net/mysuccess
2. Click on Overview
3. Click on Play
4. Join, have Fun, Make Friends, Make Money! 

Join Now and become a part of the biggest growing e-commerce companies before it gets too big.To your wealth,Freddy 

Submitted by Freddy on Thu, 08/28/2008 - 20:31
 

No, that doesn't give STE any credibility

Tracy Coenen
FRAUDfiles Blog
Pink Truth

MLM promoters often use assertions like "Would Wal-Mart do business with us if it wasn't legit" or "If it was illegal or bad it would have been shut down" to promote their scams.

Here are the facts -

Wal-Mart and the other retailers do not vet STE to see if it's a decent company. They let STE sign up as an affiliate with them the same way they let me sign up as an affiliate. Fill out application. Approved! They don't do any research on who's using their affiliate programs.

Law enforcement in the United States very rarely takes any action against MLMs (which are thinly veiled pyramid schemes). I don't know why they allow consumers to be abused this way, but they do.

It's fun to say things like this because MLM promoters think it makes their schemes sound legitimate, and many times (unfortunately) consumers believe them.  

 

Submitted by sequence on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 06:00
 

You're incorrect.

Freddy,

Either you are incredibly uninformed about how affiliate programs work, or else you're being disingenuous in asserting that because STE rewards for purchases at big-name merchants, it must therefore have their stamp of approval...but either way, you're incorrect.

ANYONE can sign up as an affiliate of Disney, Walmart, and Home Depot.  All you have to do is go to one of these affiliate networks and sign up:

DisneyShopping pays 3% (5% to higher-volume affiliates) through Linkshare.com
Walmart pays 1-4% (depending on the item category), also through Linkshare.com
Home Depot pays 3% (2% on gift cards) through Commission Junction (CJ.com)

Any site that is charging you money to receive these levels of cash back rebates is ripping you off, because you can get those rates all on your own for free.  Simple as that.

And if you think that any of these merchants even know who STE is, I challenge you to prove it.  Call their corporate numbers and ask.  I'll even help you do it -- here are their phone numbers:

Disney:  Steve Wadsworth (President of Walt Disney Internet Group, in charge of Disney.com) -- 818-560-1301
Walmart:  Stephen F. Quinn (Chief Marketing Officer) -- 479-273-4000
Home Depot:  John Ross (VP of Advertising and Interim Chief Marketing Officer) -- 770-433-8211

Please let us know what they tell you.  I'd love to hear their responses.

Submitted by reford on Fri, 08/29/2008 - 07:18
 

Just do you HOMEWORK...you will see right
through this JUNK!

The person who started this blog is so correct.  Don't waste you time and money.   If you do research, and if you know anything about affiliate marketing, you will know that you can do this on your own.

Without a doubt, this companies do not even know who STE is. 

The people making all the money are the people who started this company. They have set up all of the affiliates in their network.  When you buy your $100 bucks worth of stuff every month via the site, you are putting money in their pokets.   Because they started this big network, just imagine when everyone who is signed up buys every month, how much money you are generating for them.  Yes...you might see some commission checks coming in, but believe me...unless you get people signed up as marketers, you will not see anything.

Do your homework people or you will be pissed.  I have learned my lesson already.

At least with VMDirect, it was pretty cleaver.  STE is not even cleaver.  If you know about affiliate marketing, you can see right through this junk. 

 

 

 

 

 

Submitted by JKSCSU22 on Sun, 08/31/2008 - 03:10
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