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Why Is Yelling a Parental Hot Button?

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We've seen the harried mother in Wal-Mart, shrieking at her wayward toddler as she streaks through the aisles clutching candy. You've probably also been the exhausted mommy who, at the end of a long day, MUST YELL TO GET THE SELECTIVELY HEARING-IMPAIRED CHILD TO TAKE A BATH.

I myself went along a parenting trajectory. It went like this:

  • New mommy: Cooing and singing, even when my daughter popped me in the nose accidentally while reaching for a toy, hurting me so bad my eyes watered
  • Toddler mommy: Redirection! These tantrums are developmentally appropriate! Ha!
  • Preschooler mommy: I don't understand you when you use that whining voice.
  • Kindergartner mommy: Yell 

I usually don't feel guilty about yelling, because despite what I just wrote, I don't yell first and ask questions later. I'll ask or tell in a normal voice once or twice. If there's a television distracting my daughter, I'll turn it off before I resort to yelling. But sometimes? I know she can hear me. She's daydreaming. She's just not listening. So then I pump up the volume a little.

I also sometimes amp the volume in order to shut down a red herring. Ex: No, we're not going to have Halloween candy for breakfast and PUT YOUR COAT ON NOW. Because *usually* I yell on purpose, I don't feel guilty. I do feel guilty when I just snap and yell rather than use another parenting technique that I know would work better, like removing the distraction or getting down on her level. Because sometimes? I'm tired and I FEEL A LITTLE LIKE YELLING JUST BECAUSE.

Our own Devra Renner was quoted in the New York Times on this subject:

To research their book “Mommy Guilt: Learn to Worry Less, Focus on What Matters Most, and Raise Happier Kids,” the three authors, Devra Renner, Aviva Pflock and Julie Bort, commissioned a survey of 1,300 parents across the country to determine sources of parental guilt. Two-thirds of respondents named yelling — not working or spanking or missing a school event — as their biggest guilt inducer.

Francesca of Mommybl*gger writes about watching SuperNanny, which I personally feel is the most guilt-inducing show on television:

Every time they’d show the sad kid shot, I was always on that child’s side. “God that mom is such a bitch,” I’d think. But by 7pm the next day, somehow I would have cast myself as the bitchy mom yelling my head off while and my own kids were the ones crying in their room. Although I think we'll all agree that we feel guilty when we yell, the jury's out on whether or not we should feel guilty.

So, yeah, some moms feel guilty about yelling. But should we? Michelle Cottle writes at The New Republic:

Even the requisite anti-screaming quotes from child development experts don't offer anything more than some vague cautions that yelling can damage a child's self-esteem or "be perceived as a sign of rejection." Indeed, the only damage we are shown proof of is the guilt and feelings of failure from hand-wringing parents who simply don't understand why they can't raise their children with the whole-grain goodness and invariably mild tones preached by all the parenting books.

When I think about my guilt, it really boils down to whether I meant to yell or not. If I meant to yell, I don't feel guilty at all. If I didn't mean to -- if my daughter was just the recipient of my bad day -- I feel guilty as hell. All in all, I'd say I agree most with Mommy Dearest, who writes:

Again I would have to argue that moderation is the issue.  Part of raising a child is that the child learns to feel guilty about doing things which are genuinely wrong.  Losing your cool because of an accident or minor incident is probably something you shouldn’t do (though I doubt it’s damaging if it’s a twice yearly occurence).  However, a controlled use of an angry tone with the intention of making a child feel badly for something that really shouldn’t be done can work, if it’s not used constantly. 

Yelling, like an angry face or pointed finger, is a social cue that you're upset. How weird is it to dole out discipline without looking upset at all? And how, exactly, does that help the child read social cues from other people and learn to back off when the other person is exhibiting anger signals? Without delving too deeply into the science behind it (because I have no idea

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jamierippy 5 pts

I gererally feel like a heel after, too.  My three year old does.not.listen.  I swear I think she has cotton in her ears 90% of the time.  Half the time, she's off in la-la land (and that's ok) and the other half, she's making an effort to disobey anything and everything I ask her to do.  That's usually when I yell.  Of course, having a 6 month old too has not helped things.  I am working really hard on learning to control my emotions and reel myself in before I yell, but I still slip sometimes. 

~Jamie

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akamaimama 5 pts

I scared my kids and myself yelling tonight...and I feel horrible. I just cried and cried as I put them to bed (2 and 4 years old) which made it worse. The 4 year old kept telling me it was going to be okay. It's so hard to be with them all day, day after day. My husband is never home, and I can't even talk to him about this anymore. He works so hard himself, so it's hard for me to complain about my parenting stresses. Christine, your post hit home. I really feel like I need to GROW UP and learn how to manage my own reactions. I've apologized twice to the girls for my own "tantrums" this week. I have the best job in the world, I know, and two beautiful, bright, healthy girls. I have everything I ever asked for and some days I'm so distraught... I can relate to everyone's feelings here...

BlessedSalt 5 pts

I have noticed that one weeks when I yell because I'm stressed or whatever the case is, my kids also yell more. The quietness of our house goes away because I set a loud example. Does that mean that I never yell? no! I lost my temper this morning and yelled. Then on the way to the gym my daughter asked me if I was going to be nice again after we went to the gym. That was heartbreaking!

So I know I can't live with never yelling, it's not an attainable goal for me. However, I can try my hardest not to yell and remember that when I yell, it only causes more chaos in the long run.

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Devra Renner 5 pts

Before parents beat ourselves up too badly for losing it from time to time, it's important to consider the positive impact negative emotions can have if they are handled appropriately. Anger is a big scary emotion for kids, and also for adults at times. When we are able to express anger appropriately, or deal with the aftermath of an emotional tsunami in a way our child can  learn anger doesn't equate with absense of love, then the damage done by the yelling can be offset by our ability to bring it all arouund to demonstrating  conflict resolution skills and making amends if needed. 

Our kids learn a lot about how to handle emotions from adults. Anger,disappointment, frustration, are all normal emotions and we need not stuff them back in when we feel em, what we need to work on, myself included, is expressing them constructively so our kids learn even negative emotions can be expressed appropriately and with purpose.

Devra Renner, MSW

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moxiemom 5 pts

Great piece and great comments too. I try really hard not to yell. But sometimes it does not work.

I need new techniquest to not yell. I like some of the ideas above. Going to try them now. Wish me luck.

MoxieMom

Sierra Black 5 pts

I recently posted about this on Parenting Squad ( http://parentingsquad.com/is-yelling-the-new-spank... ), with some pointers on what you can do instead.My favorite is to go ahead and yell, just not at the kids. Yodel, howl, holler like Tarzan. You can get the stress out without hurting anyone.

Not that I always remember to do that. There's nothing in the world more frustrating than dealing with my own kids, and I bet that's true for a lot of moms. We all lose it sometimes. What matters is how you pick the pieces back up.

Devra Renner 5 pts

2/3 of parents named yelling , not work or missing a school event, as what made them feel the most guilt.  The NYT mistakenly added in spanking to that statistic.

Our survey and research had no findings related to guilt and spanking.   Aviva wrote up our response to the NYT article. We submitted a request for a correction, however to the best of our knowledge, that has not happened as of today.

Aviva's post is called "Pipe Down Those Pipes"  and if I knew HTML better, I could direct link it, but if you go to www.parentopia.com/blog ( http://www.parentopia.com/blog ) it's the most recent post.

Devra

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Rita Arens 7 pts

I certainly can't pretend I know what to do with other kids. I've been watching my own kids for signs I need to try something different. I think temperament feeds into it more than we think. Some kids get crushed if you tell them you're disappointed in them, and others need total and complete structure to function as a contributing member of the household.

When I think about my yelling (and it is actually rarer than I'm probably making it sound), I realize I do it to indicate to my daughter that I am winding down in terms of civil disagreement and getting ready to take away something really good. It's a warning bell. But I don't go on and on, either. Usually one sentence in a raised voice gets the message across. I'm trying to perfect an evil eye that will stop her in her tracks, but so far, no good.

Rita Arens writes at Surrender Dorothy ( http://surrenderdorothy.typepad.com ) and BlogHer and is the editor of Sleep is for the Weak ( http://tinyurl.com/9pg62e ).

wifenmom 5 pts

I'll be honest. I yell, and I know I shouldn't. I freak out over things easily, and it does scare other people. I have yet to find a way to harness it or figure out a way to get some sort of control over my four year old daughter, who doesn't seem to listen to me one bit. Though not using this as an excuse, we currently live with my parents, who adore and spoil her way too much, so she always thinks she has free range over everything, including what she wants to do and eat, etc.

My husband tells me that I am out of control when I get frustrated at her, since like Jenna's son, she knows exactly how to trigger it. She ignores me and continues to do precisely what I asked her million times not to do. I do not to yell at first, but it seems to go toward that direction all the time. Time outs don't seem to work, and she thinks spankings are joke. I attempted to take things away from her, but still no positive results.

This may change when I can fully discipline her without grandparents around to counter any rules we make, but for now I wish that I can use another form of attention grabber to get her to listen to me. (Any suggestions would be great!).

-Mary-
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Rita Arens 7 pts

I hear you, Christine. I think not yelling is always better than yelling. But I think losing control completely is the worst, whether it's yelling or anything else.

I agree with you that self control is one of the greatest acts of love a parent can give. I will counter that it's unrealistic to expect to behave perfectly every day of your life. :)

Rita Arens writes at Surrender Dorothy ( http://surrenderdorothy.typepad.com/ ) and BlogHer and is the editor of Sleep is for the Weak ( http://tinyurl.com/9pg62e ).

christinemoers 5 pts

I wrote on this recently: Yelling. Is. Not. Okay. ( http://www.welcometomybrain.net/2009/11/yelling-is... )

I don't say this lightly. I'm a mom of five, two of whom  came to me completely unattached (ya' know - to ANYONE).  I've had my life threatened.  I've had rocks thrown at my head (friggin good aim, too).  The things which have been screamed at me and the rages ... oh, the rages.  I could go on for days and days and days.

And I have chosen to stop yelling (been a reformed yeller for about six years now).  If my children are not paying attention to me, I quietly walk over and remove whatever is holding their attention.  Might be a toy or the TV ... whatever.  "So sorry this was more important that listening to Mom.  You can have it back when you show me you can control yourself long enough to answer me."

"Honey, all those things you said earlier made me feel like crap.  So, I need you to bring me $10 from your allowance.  I'm headed out for something fattening.  That will make me feel SO much better!"

I used to yell for me.  Really.  That's what it boiled down to.  Sucks, but I've put on my big girl panties and faced it.  I felt that my children MUST obey.  If they weren't obeying, then I needed to do something more to MAKE them obey. heh. heh.  As if we can make anyone do anything.  I finally figured out that in life there are consequences for our actions.  We can keep choosing the consequences.  We don't have to ever follow the rules.  No one can make us.  We can learn from the consequences or not.  So, that's what we do in our home.  It's a mini version of the grown-up world.

My kids never, ever have problems reading social cues.  I have a firm voice, and a stern look.  But yelling?  Do you yell at your coworkers?  Do you yell in professional settings?  Do you yell at the guy in the grocery store who is clueless as they hog the whole aisle? My kids are learning that they can have self control in any circumstance.  It really is possible.  It is hard as hell (underline "HARD AS HELL").  It requires inner strength, and I think self control can be one of the greatest acts of love on the planet.

And did I mention it's HARD AS HELL?

Christine

www.welcometomybrain.net ( http://www.welcometomybrain.net )

Fluid Pudding 5 pts

I was spanked, so I don't spank. I do, however, yell. And sometimes I season my yelling with the slamming of a door. And afterwards? I feel like a childish zero.

I've told myself that I need to do the Count to 10 thing more often, but I haven't yet been able to put it into practice.

sassymonkey 6 pts moderator

The "Denise Voice." But I can imagine it. And it scares me. 

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TW 6 pts

Denise doesn't yell. Or at least the kids will tell you she doesn't. She uses the "Denise Voice" which people she has worked with are also familiar with and it strikes fear in just about anyone's heart.

I scream. Sometimes. It isn't something I am proud of but I do have my screaming moments. Not long-not a 5 minute, ten minute, 20 minute harangue. But I do have that moment. sigh. It is pretty ineffective though. (Although my kids will tell you they would rather have a 2 second scream than the one hour discussion of what they are doing wrong and how proud one is of them even if they screwed up royally)

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JennaHatfield 10 pts

I can only speak for myself. It's a hot button issue for me because I grew up in a house with two very passionate parents. They loved fiercely. They fought loudly. I didn't like it. In fact, yelling caused me to shut down completely. Someone would raise their voice and I'd block it out even more.

My oldest son? He's stubborn. He's got my independent streak. He's me, but small and male. He knows how to push my buttons in 2.5 seconds. He's really a very intelligent child which sometimes creates different problems. I love him intensely. But, man, when he ignores me (or his father), I find it difficult not to yell. Like you, I talk first, yell secondary. But I wrote a post recently ( http://stopdropandblog.com/2009/10/12/i-parent-bet... ) about how I feel that I'm  yelling too much. It's not how I wanted to parent my child(ren). In fact, it's what I said I'd never do. (You know, that list of things you said you'd never do? Yeah. That one.)

I read Mommy Guilt. I've read Scream Free Parenting. I've read a whole bunch of books. I know my own triggers. I know when I'm more prone to yell, when I'm more likely to raise my voice. I know to be easy on myself, that my parents didn't irreparably damage me just by yelling. (I still don't like to be yelled at but, really, who does.) I'm working on it. I don't need to be a perfect parent. I need to be able to respect myself. I hope that other parents are making decisions for themselves and their families that they can respect as well.

I do think the point regarding moderation is really the key to the issue. In fact, since writing my post, I've been actively moderating my tone. Some days it's difficult. Some days I'm super proud of myself. Parenting has its own little battles for each of us. This is mine.

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