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state theatreOn Friday night, Sean and I took Rebecca to see the new Disney documentary African Cats. It was filmed on the Masai Mara National Reserve in Kenya, one of the stops on our Kenyan adventure last summer. We thought it would be neat to be able to say, “We’ve been there!” Of course, we didn’t plan to say it during the movie -- that would be rude. Unfortunately, the mother and five-year-old boy behind us had no such misgivings about talking during the movie. And they talked and talked and talked through the entire thing.

I didn’t think much of it during the first few minutes. Sometimes it takes a bit to get settled, and if this was the young boy’s first movie, I wanted to cut him and his mom some slack. But at the 30 minute mark, they were still jabbering away. And for the rest of the move they continued to talk, despite being shushed and asked to stop.

It was clear this mom saw the movie as a learning experience for her son. She explained everything -- and I mean everything -- to her boy: which lions were the girls, which were the boys, how many cubs mama cheetah had, what the elephants were doing, why the wildebeest were running through the river, why the daddy lion scared off the mommy lions during feeding time… If it was on the screen, there was an explanation to be had.

Y’all, I’m a homeschool mom. My attitude towards education is that learning can happen anywhere: the grocery store, church, driving down the road. I firmly believe learning should have happened in that movie theater for the little movie-goer behind me. And the lesson should have been, “Movie time is quiet time.”

But that mother felt her son needed to have his questions answered more than he needed to respect the people around him. His mom did not help him understand the movie theater is not a place for conversation, that talking would disturb his fellow movie watchers. Because in her eyes, answering her son immediately was more important than providing a quiet environment for the rest of the people in the packed theater.

We are raising a generation of narcissists.

Here’s what I’d like to tell that little boy: Dear, you’ll notice that everyone around you is quiet. That’s because a movie theater is for watching, not talking. All these people around you have paid their money and are expecting to watch the movie in a quiet theater. You need to be respectful of them by being quiet. We’ll talk about your questions afterward. And if you can’t wait, we’ll leave the theater so we can chat without disturbing those around us.

And here’s what I’d like to tell the mom: Have you heard of DVD’s?

(Okay, that’s not all I’d like to tell her, but we’ll leave it at that…)

Parents, the world does not revolve around our children and it is not child abuse to tell them so. We need to teach them that hard truth while they’re still under our roofs. Because if we don't, the real world will come as a mighty big shock to their fragile psyches. And they'll rightly blame us for a gross lack of preparation when life doesn't go their way.

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

I just read your post - thanks for linking to mine. Glad we were on the same wavelength!

Happy Mother's Day!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

I agree with your comment - the young boy in the theater was learning from his mom that talking during a movie was just fine. And I'm concerned that we're going to see a lot more of this kind of self-centered behavior in the near future.

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

You're not alone! Don't give up teaching those manners!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

I couldn't teach any kids but my own (and sometimes, I'm not so great at teaching them!) so I'm thankful for your brother. It is worrisome to hear his words.

Christy

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The UDG 5 pts

This is exactly why I ended up not going into teaching. My oldest brother is a high school history teacher and has been for 10+ years. He told me, "Sis, every year the self entitlement gets a little worse." I really don't enjoy babysitting, while I do it for family, so I was not prepared to make a career out of it.

Granny Nanny 5 pts

I sited your post on my blog today since just the title of your post drove home the point of mine!

Christy Duffy 5 pts

My thoughts exactly!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

It's hard to believe some of your students didn't understand the concept of interrupting!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

Not taking an infant to the theater just seems like common sense! That's definitely a time for a babysitter or DVD.

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Milestonemom 5 pts

I'll never forget an incident a number of years ago. I wa at Port Authority In NY waiting for a bus on a snowy day. Of course, everything was backed up and there was a long wait. When it was finally my turn, 4 young boys cut right in front of me. The pediatric therapist in me decided to speak up - not normally a good idea in NYC. But I was so peeved that I said "didn't your mothers ever teach you that it's rude to cut in line?" Their response astounded me. One said "didn't your mother tell you that it's rude to mind someone else's business?". Their parents were probably the same ones with 30 items on express checkout, or the ones driving up the shoulder to cut ahead of the other patinetly waiting drivers. My point is that you can't teach what you don't practice.Modeling is a powerful tool. Kids learn from example. It's not just about indulging kids. It is about the self-absorption of the parents who don't know any better themselves.

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luvmywings 5 pts

I am so happy I found this post and I'm so happy I'm not the only one who sees manners being tossed aside by people! Thank you

Nobody wants to be Ethel 5 pts

wait for the DVD and watch and talk all you want at home but not in the theater.

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teachingaintforheroes 5 pts

Kids with this type of upbringing are already in high school. I have a lot of students that seriously do not understand that not doing what they want, when they want to is not acceptable in all circumstances. As an English teacher, teaching manners somehow falls into my curriculum. My kids were legitimately confused about why interrupting someone was not okay. It's simultaneously sad and frustrating.

Tired of Previews 5 pts

My sentiments exactly! And being a movie reviewer what you said about not talking in the theater is doubly important for me.

Might I add - bringing an infant to the theater might not be the greatest idea as well. Nothing against babies - I have 2 children but the noise and lights probably scare the child and they eventually starting crying. DVD is what I think too or babysitter.

I saw and reviewed Hanna recently - not a movie for young children and a couple brought in an infant and constantly had to get up and walk around with the crying infant...sigh.

Christy Duffy 5 pts

Sarah, I appreciate you taking the time to write and I completely agree that children are not the only selfish ones around. But a place like the theater, where it is socially acceptable to be quiet, is not a place to take someone who cannot fulfill that social contract.

There are many other places this young boy could go so he would not be locked in his house.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

Seriously?! Completely unbelievable!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

I did a lot of training at the Mommy Matinees - it was a relaxed atmosphere where we could practice sitting still and being quiet, and knowing if we failed (which we did regularly!) it wouldn't negatively impact those around us.

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

You're right - the kids are learning this self-centered behavior from the adults in their life. Lover your "average" quote, by the way!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

Kristina, I'm there for you!

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SarahLS 5 pts

I would normally agree with you 100% (and, a year ago, would probably have turned around and taught them both the lesson you mention). However, my own experiences help me see the situation of that child and parent differently. Now, I don't know that there was anything other than just plain rudeness going on, but it is possible that the boy's circumstances deserve some consideration.

My daughter has a variety of special needs including a recent diagnosis of high-functioning autism. One of the ways that manifests is in asking TONS of questions about anything and everything all the time. If she doesn't get an answer, the questions will continue coming and will likely get louder.

After years of effort, we have been able to get those questions to be quieter and a bit less frequent when we are in a circumstance that requires it (like a movie theater), but it is not currently possible for them to stop entirely.

And while I appreciate that this may be distracting for others (we do, though, take care to sit a distance away from others whenever possible), I also refuse to keep my daughter locked in our home because other people might find her differences annoying.

Yes, we need to take whatever steps we can to help her meet her needs in a way that doesn't impede on others. Others, though, need to recognize that it isn't all about them either. Sometimes other people's needs might require a bit more understanding and patience than most give.

Narcissism is hardly limited to the children we are currently raising...

JCK 5 pts

Oh, you've nailed it. So sorry for your movie experience.

Unfortunately, adults do it too...in louder "whispers." I'll never forget the time a woman pulled her lunch out of a paper bag - a salad! In a plastic, noisy container. Made me nuts!

Love this post.

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

The mom had no intention of deferring to anyone around her. But if your daughter had been there maybe she could have kept the little guy in line!

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

Jen - home training... hard to do that when we've scheduled our kids to death. Sounds like another blog post! PS: love your blog title!

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

It does seem that we all think we're above the rules. I'm doing my best to make sure my kids know that doing what's right is always right, even if they're the only ones doing it.

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TheLazyChristian 5 pts

This is one reason I'm nervous to take my son to the movies. He needs a play by play of everything. This is why I LOVE "Mommy Matinees" at the local theater. Everyone goes in with the expectation that babies and kids will be there, not necessarily being silent as the grave, and I won't have to worry about my son's antics!

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Jane Byers Goodwin 5 pts

Thank you for this post. Ironically, those who are guilty of ruining life's experiences for the rest of the world will: A) Not realize we're talking about THEM, B) be irate because they paid good money for their ticket and as such should be able to enjoy the experience as they see fit, C) be appalled that someone would think hushing or in any way suppressing a child is a good thing, or D) pity the universe for not being child-centered - specifically, centered on THEIR children.

Sadder still, it's not just children whose lack of discipline and good manners ruin so many experiences for the rest of us. Many times, it's been grown women (always women; what's up with that?) whose conversations and full course meals at the theater have ruined the entire thing for others.

A theater is a place for silence. Eat before you get there. When you get there, shut up for two hours. If you can't do both, stay home.

It's horrifying that so many people honestly do believe the universe and all its wonders do indeed circle all around them, and that they deserve to get their way in all things.

The rest of us have another word for these people and their dreadful offspring, but, to quote Auntie Em. . . . .

Good manners rule. Bad manners drool.

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onblank 5 pts

It's becoming a faux pas to suggest that parents teach good manners by exhibiting them. Thanks for reminding me that there is at least one mother out there that I can count on next time I'm in a movie theatre.

Solidarity.

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xoxoxoe 5 pts

I think my 7-year old daughter would have been appalled at the rudeness - I can see her standing up, turning around and saying, "Please be quiet, I'm watching a movie!" She did that while we were at the movies recently and it worked, kid-to-kid. (And she beat me to it, before I could ssshhh) Not so sure it would have kept the mom in question quiet, however.

jennelsonlane 5 pts

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Fantastic post! My husband always says one of the biggest things lacking in today's kids is "home training." I'm trying hard to be sure I'm raising a courteous kid.

threeundertwo 5 pts

Personally, I would have confronted the mother in no uncertain terms. People treat theaters like their television at home and need to learn the difference.

I have 2 ballet dancers in the family so I've often had to usher for performances of Nutcracker. Despite signs, announcements, and our best efforts to divert them at the door, people still think it's okay to sneak in snacks. As soon as the lights go down all you can hear is the crinkle crinkle crinkle of wrappers. It's not a ball game! Don't get me started on screaming babies...

Public behavior in general has slipped into rudeness. The theater is one place where this must stop.

Christy Duffy 5 pts

That sense of entitlement is a major problem, I agree.

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lynn22 5 pts

I so agree. It's that sense of entitlement. The lack of manners everywhere is appalling.

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

It's always helpful to try to put ourselves in other's shoes. I tried to do that with the mom in the theater, but I just couldn't find any scenario where I could justify disturbing so many other people.

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

You're right - a proper understanding of where we stand in the universe is a great gift to our children.

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JillDC 5 pts

You hit this issue spot - on. By tolerating, and even encouraging, such behavior, parents are teaching rudeness.

Christy Duffy 5 pts

JennaHatfield, being in a quiet space for two hours is one of the main reasons I love going to the theater, too!

Thanks for the kind words.

Christy

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

Marianne, that's a pet peeve of mine, too!

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Brenda M 5 pts

Yes, well said! It's a wonder to me when this occurs. I wonder about the parents that allow their kids to run a muck, and think to myself ...if these parents were out for a night without kids, how would the feel.

RaisingAmazingDaughters 5 pts

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I couldn't agree more. One of the best gifts you can give your child is a true picture of his/her place in the world. He/she will grow up so much happier from learning that there are other people in the world and everyone matters enough to be truly respected. Thanks!

JennaHatfield 10 pts

That would have driven me absolutely batty. I so rarely go to the theater -- with or without my kids -- and I want a quiet experience when I go! It's what I pay for: 2 hours of QUIET. Heh.

Great post!

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Christy Duffy 5 pts

ConnieLC, I'm glad to know I'm not alone! I fear we really are doing our kids a disservice by not teaching them the world doesn't revolve around them.

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MealMixer 5 pts

That same mom probably talks on her cell phone at top volume in public.

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ConnieLC 5 pts

Amen! Common courtesy, manners, consideration of others all seem to have taken a second, third etc seat to indulging our kids. I'm so glad you posted this. Perhaps it will help people understand that they are not alone and need to consider others in life.