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Life is complicated. Thank goodness there are experts to help us untangle some of the vexing issues that, well, vex us on a daily basis. The Mouthy Housewives are here to help, three times a week. Today, the Housewives answer an exclusive BlogHerMoms question!

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Dear Mouthy Housewives,

When my son started school, I was all set to join the PTA.  But I went to one meeting and it basically it scarred me for life. The women that are the top of the food chain basically tore people apart behind their backs if you disagreed with them.

I decided to take on other volunteer opportunities in the classroom and on school trips. Could I make time for the PTA? Yes, but I won't because I'm not going to listen to women backstab each other.

My neighbor is the worst offender. She volunteers and complains constantly about it. So last week, she was again complaining and I asked her, "Why do you do it then?"  An hour later, she posted on Facebook, "A parent at our school approached me today and asked why I volunteer." Then she went on to say how she does it for her children, the community, etc.

The problem is that all the responses that followed were like,  "What kind of parent would ask something like that?", "A parent like that will only give their time if they can get something out of it" and "I can't believe a parent would ask you that!" She really made me look bad. She made me look like I was against volunteering. I was shocked.

I'm rarely on Facebook so I think that's why she posted it there. I'm not sure how to handle.

Signed,

Too Much Mama Drama

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Princess Mama

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Dear Mama Drama,

My first idea was that you could immediately send me her name so that I can friend her on Facebook (I'm sure I have the same name as someone she went to elementary school with) and then I will comment on her page, "Perhaps this parent was exhausted from hearing your constant negative attitude and whining over your volunteer work and just wanted to know why you continue to volunteer when you clearly derive no joy from it whatsoever."

Man, wouldn't that feel good? We'd give each other virtual high fives on our cleverness but then sadly, once the Facebook adrenaline wore off, we'd feel a bit dreary.  Because it would feel mean spirited. And negative.  Exactly what we don't like in those vicious PTA ladies.

Instead, I think you should talk to her.  I know, who likes talking?! Not me. I'll tell you that. I'd rather text, email, tweet, tumblr down the hill with Jack and Jill, whatever - just don't make me talk to someone in person! But the problem with all this social media is that it leads to a lot of misperceptions because it's hard to read someone's tone online.

It sounds like you run into your neighbor often. So the next time you see her simply say, 'I saw your Facebook update about volunteering. I'm sorry if I offended you in some way. That wasn't my intention at all. But I'd appreciate if our conversations are not posted on Facebook."

And then let this go. Because all those negative comments on Facebook came from people who were reading your volunteer question out of context and their comments do not reflect anything about who you really are.

Good luck,

Kelcey, TMH

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avflox 12 pts

I'm with Kelcey 99 percent. The writer's neighbor lives in a negative sphere; the woman who wrote in can feed the storm or she can close her window. She seems self-aware enough to know she don't want to give time to the PTA because of the toxicity of its environment -- responding to the comment is only going to pull her into it. She needs to stand strong and not let it.

Apologizing to her neighbor as Kelcey suggested is brilliant because it teaches by showing how adults should behave. The only thing I would do differently is I would not ask her not to write on Facebook about it. She will. That's what she has always done, it seems, and it is silly to imagine that she will stop because she is asked. Further, it might make her defensive and make the neighbor less receptive to the lesson in her apology. If the writer says she saw the comment on Facebook, that is shameful enough. Without the added demand, and with a genuine apology (though clearly it's not the writer's fault), the neighbor may be forced to reflect on her petty behavior.

The more proactive approach is for the writer to get on Facebook right now and change her settings so that she doesn't see as many (or, even better! ANY) updates from this woman and any other people who bring no value to her life.

On the internet, we talk a great deal about trolls and how important it is not to feed them by responding to their desperate attempts to create drama. It is exactly the same in real life. Yes, the high road is a lonely place. It would be lovely for the woman who wrote in to be able to volunteer at her children's school without having to deal with these personalities, but warring over civility is not going to make things any more civil.

What she does have, however, is the power to refuse to get involved and to find other women in her community who spend their time contributing value and friendship to each other's lives.

eleanore 10 pts

I agree with Kelcey's overall advice...with one small modification. The apology's wording implies that the writer did something wrong. I would add to it "I think you misunderstood my comment"...which gives the opportunity to explain and maybe even have a grown-up conversation.

BTBWmommy 7 pts

YOU need to respond with this "Perhaps this parent was exhausted from hearing your constant negative attitude and whining over your volunteer work and just wanted to know why you continue to volunteer when you clearly derive no joy from it whatsoever." Don't hide it. She didn't hide hers.

naked_mommy 5 pts

How to take the high road. Love it! I think all too often people (like the PTA mom) forget how to keep it classy or at least respectful. Sometimes I want to close my Facebook account because of things I'm subjected to on a daily basis, then I remind myself that I can unfriend, or now unsubscribe, to hatefulness and negativity. A little venting is ok and in my view, healthy (e.g. Please let the construction outside my house be done today!), but personal attacks are not.

frugal4orlando 6 pts

I think I would have posted a status update of my own, asking "Why do people volunteer then complain so miserably about it? Shouldn't it give you joy?"

Mikayla 5 pts

Oh my... well, thank goodness she didn't use your name on Facebook! Find solace in the fact that the replies were based on her taking your comment out of context and I have no doubt most would feel very differently if they were privy to the entire conversation. Oh and my PTA group is a fantastic group of warm and supportive women who are genuinely devoted our kids... after reading your post, I am now even more grateful than ever. :)

Call Her Happy 5 pts

Love the advice! In this age of technology, people are totally blindsided by real conversation. So, it's like a double win. You take the higher ground and don't feel guilty about it or that you are "one of them", and she feels like she has been put in her place. Win-win!

Jenna

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ajayrochester 7 pts

OMG I just had a facebook war with one of those very mothers!!!! Hilair! I had the most disgusting experience of my life at the very last PTA meeting I ever attended. You can read about their suggestion of creating a "shame list" for the parents in beverly Hills who couldn't afford to pay the voluntary $500 plus contribution. http://www.chasingoprah.com/2011/07/02/bel-air-wit...

You can normally find me at www.findingmymojo.com but I just had to share that one with you!

Best advice: don't waste your time on women with too much time, too much money and not enough class!

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Why would I care IF another imperfect human said anything about me, another imperfect human. Women waste too much time putting on false faces and then wondering what the world will say. Live ur truth and do you...screw the judgments and the ppl they come From....enuf said!